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    Uh, dragon?? Seems that's all she really needs.
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    Not sure she cares at this point. Seems to her, Jon is the only threat she has to the Iron Throne.
    No military means no defense for Iron Throne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc View Post
    On the Scorpions..

    Yes, they took out a dragon, when they struck in a surprise attack.

    However, when expecting them, and ready to try and doge the shots, they are still a big threat, but not as much of one. Sort of like how a martial arts expert is easy to beat when you hit him with a club when he wasn't expecting an attack. When the expert is the one initiating the attack, that advantage isn't as great.

    There is also a matter of how long they take to reload and turn. She still took a big, foolish risk in the assault, but I don't think there was any big change in the capabilities of the Scorpions.
    How does a naval force launch a surprise attack against a fast moving airborne target?

    Are they now using 'over the horizon' scorpions??

    As the Japanese Empire can tell you, it's a LOT easier for a small airborne force to spot a fleet than it is for a fleet to spot a small airborne force - and it's a lot easier for air forces to sink ships than it is for ships to shoot down fast moving aerial targets.

    Even if we allow a lucky shot getting one of the two dragons, the other should have sunk the entire fleet right there and then. Which would have achieved the exact same result for the wider plot, without a glaring inconsistency.

    Well, OK it would have meant no fight between Jamie and Euron. But frankly that would probably have improved the series.

    Euron toasted by dragon in Ep4; Jamie no longer has to ignore multiple fatal wounds in Ep5 after a fight nobody cared about. Win-Win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bilby View Post
    How does a naval force launch a surprise attack against a fast moving airborne target? .
    By setting up an ambush near their base of operations. They were not out in the middle of the ocean somewhere, they were next to Dragonstone, waiting for them to return. When politicians go to visit troops in combat zones the aircraft usually comes for a landing in a steep decent, without lights, to minimize the chance of being shot at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc View Post
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    How does a naval force launch a surprise attack against a fast moving airborne target? .
    By setting up an ambush near their base of operations. They were not out in the middle of the ocean somewhere, they were next to Dragonstone, waiting for them to return. When politicians go to visit troops in combat zones the aircraft usually comes for a landing in a steep decent, without lights, to minimize the chance of being shot at.
    Sure. Against modern ships, with radar and rapid firing and/or proximity fused and/or guided AAA.

    Wooden sailing vessels armed with scorpions are toast against a dragon in any strategic or tactical circumstances. And there's no way they could possibly achieve surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc View Post
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    How does a naval force launch a surprise attack against a fast moving airborne target? .
    By setting up an ambush near their base of operations. They were not out in the middle of the ocean somewhere, they were next to Dragonstone, waiting for them to return. When politicians go to visit troops in combat zones the aircraft usually comes for a landing in a steep decent, without lights, to minimize the chance of being shot at.
    How did they have an ambush there anyways? I get that most everyone was away, but did Dany leave zero people at Dragonmount so that there was nobody there to bang a gong or light a signal fire to let her arriving fleet know about the evil fleet sitting there around the corner in easy view of the castle's windows? I mean, where was that girl Varys was working with and all her fellow servants? They didn't go up north to fight the zombies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
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    How does a naval force launch a surprise attack against a fast moving airborne target? .
    By setting up an ambush near their base of operations. They were not out in the middle of the ocean somewhere, they were next to Dragonstone, waiting for them to return. When politicians go to visit troops in combat zones the aircraft usually comes for a landing in a steep decent, without lights, to minimize the chance of being shot at.
    How did they have an ambush there anyways? I get that most everyone was away, but did Dany leave zero people at Dragonmount so that there was nobody there to bang a gong or light a signal fire to let her arriving fleet know about the evil fleet sitting there around the corner in easy view of the castle's windows? I mean, where was that girl Varys was working with and all her fellow servants? They didn't go up north to fight the zombies.
    and also per the logic of the show that means her and her fleet just fuck off to wherever with zero scouts or recon done before hand, she doesn't even do a high altitude fly over to check out the vicinity.
    that attack only works if she flies in directly along the coast where the iron fleet is around the corner where she can't see them and she is flying low enough to be hit by scorpions and she just wings it around a cliff and blunders into them.
    in which case, how the fuck did they see her, reposition the scorpions to their altitude, and fire without her or anyone in the fleet seeing them?

    it's completely ridiculous physically impossible bullshit that only exists for the sake of the scene - which is pretty much all of game of thrones for the last 3 seasons.

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    On the more lighthearted side

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    You'd think that they'd take more care, considering the sheer popularity of the series and expectations of fans. What is it, incompetence? Rushing into production?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
    You'd think that they'd take more care, considering the sheer popularity of the series and expectations of fans. What is it, incompetence? Rushing into production?
    Wut? I thought the last episode was perfect. They delivered exactly what they should have done. Denaerys is turning into her father, as foreshadowed and expected, and everybody supporting her regrets it. Jon Snow was of course destined to become king, because he's the only person in Westeros who doesn't want to become king. This is how you create tension in a show. This is schoolbook writing of how to do it. It's the perfect drama.

    Albeit on the rails now. They couldn't have written it any differently. I still think they pulled it off masterfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
    You'd think that they'd take more care, considering the sheer popularity of the series and expectations of fans. What is it, incompetence? Rushing into production?
    both.
    one half of the showrunner team is the incompetent fuckwit that wrote one of the most abysmally god-awful movies of all time (x-men origins: wolverine) and is basically only in the business because his father is a goldman sachs exec and bought his way in.
    GoT has a lot of production budget thrown at it but the people in charge of the show are dipshits.

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