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    Former S.C. congressman Mark Sanford announces Republican primary challenge against Trump - The Washington Post
    “I think we need to have a conversation on what it means to be a Republican,” Sanford added. “I think that as a Republican Party, we have lost our way.”
    So DT has three challengers so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    Former S.C. congressman Mark Sanford announces Republican primary challenge against Trump - The Washington Post
    “I think we need to have a conversation on what it means to be a Republican,” Sanford added. “I think that as a Republican Party, we have lost our way.”
    So DT has three challengers so far.
    You misspelled zero. Trump owns the GOP somehow. Trump has proven, anyone but a Democrat is the GOP voter's platform.

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    Mark Sanford says he is launching primary challenge against Trump - CNNPolitics
    In a campaign-style video released last month, Sanford warned of "a big storm coming" if the issues of debt, the deficit or government spending aren't prioritized.

    "I just got through watching two Democratic debates that offered little more than a long laundry list of new political promises that we can't afford," Sanford says. "I listen to the President, who rules out action on the very things that drive our debt and spending."

    America, he added, is "in the most precarious financial position" and "not dealing with it could crush our economy, it could wipe out whatever we've saved, it could even destroy our republic."
    At least he's willing to criticize a Republican here.

    Trump takes aim at Mark Sanford, his newest GOP challenger - POLITICO
    “When the former Governor of the Great State of South Carolina, @MarkSanford, was reported missing, only to then say he was away hiking on the Appalachian Trail, then was found in Argentina with his Flaming Dancer friend, it sounded like his political career was over,” Trump tweeted.

    “It was, but then he ran for Congress and won, only to lose his re-elect after I Tweeted my endorsement, on Election Day, for his opponent,” he continued, alluding to his support for Sanford's GOP primary challenger, who wound up losing the Congressional seat to Democrat Joe Cunningham. “But now take heart, he is back, and running for President of the United States. The Three Stooges, all badly failed candidates, will give it a go!”
    What's his idea of "badly failed"? Is he capable of being anything more than a jerk?

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    At least Sanford hasn't been accused of rape.
    Cheerful Charlie

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    Bill Weld:
    Yahoo Finance on Twitter: "Highlight: "I hope the Republicans are going to remove this guy," @GovBillWeld says about Trump. "It could be a valuable precedent against the day when we might have another Nero or dictator come along and try to take away our liberties as a country." https://t.co/Jb7k9twFHf https://t.co/fzy1OdLb2W" / Twitter
    Weld hoped that would change and claimed Senate Republicans need to step in to stop Trump from “buying the election.”

    “I hope the Republicans are going to remove this guy," Weld said. “That’s our insurance policy, among other things, against him spending a billion dollars on Facebook ads and essentially buying the election.”
    In effect, outshouting the Democrats. Also telling lies, something that Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg seems reluctant to stop.

    Bill Weld: Trump faces higher risk of removal if senators go to secret ballot | US news | The Guardian
    Weld said: “The one thing that strikes me most vividly is political and it’s that the president is hanging the members of his own party out to dry in forcing them to go through the draining, even exhausting effort of defending him.

    “The Republicans in the Senate were defending Nixon up until the day when the tapes became public and then two days later he had 0% in the Senate. Dick Nixon had won 49 states not so long before that.”

    He added: “My sense more broadly, being on the hustings, is everyone’s exhausted by Trump. They’re very tired and so they really don’t want to be forced to wallow in Trump. They’d rather think about healthcare and other issues that have more to do with their daily lives.”
    Lots of Republicans say privately that they consider Trump to be very bad, but they are reluctant to say so in public, out of fear of angering the Trumpies.

    Sort of like Ocasio-Cortez: 'I want to see every Republican go on the record and knowingly vote against impeachment' | TheHill
    "I want to see every Republican go on the record and knowingly vote against impeachment of this president, knowing his corruption, having it on the record so that they can have that stain on their careers for the rest of their lives," Ocasio-Cortez said.

    "It is beyond time, and we have to end this lawlessness and corruption coming out of the White House," she said.
    That was before the Ukraine issue came up, IIRC.

    Bill Weld, GOP challenger: 'I'm with Biden in a heartbeat' over Trump - Washington Times
    “He’s a lunch-pail Democrat,” he said of Mr. Biden. “He’s a good guy. He’s a centrist, and Trump is not going to be able to play the socialism card against him.”

    Mr. Weld declared that he would never vote for Mr. Trump “under any circumstances” and would even consider supporting far-left candidate Sen. Elizabeth Warren it came down to it.

    “I suppose I’d rather have her, with a couple of modifications in her platform,” he said.

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    Joe Walsh:
    Republican 2020 presidential candidate Joe Walsh says Americans who listen to Fox News and conservative radio are being 'lied to and manipulated every day' - CNN
    "This is an absolute shame and I think you've got to call it out for what it is," Walsh told CNN's Brian Stelter on "Reliable Sources" Sunday. "The Americans who listen to Fox News and conservative talk radio are being lied to and manipulated every day when it comes to impeachment."

    ...
    "The vast majority of the American people understand that when it comes to Ukraine, [Trump] did something wrong,' Walsh said. "But those people who listen to the opinion shows on Fox and those people who listen to my former world, conservative talk radio, have no clue because they're being told every day: 'He's done nothing wrong' ... It's dangerous."
    Joe Walsh, Mark Sanford, Bill Weld: GOP candidates debate at Politicon
    "Post-Trump, it's going to take extraordinary steps to try and unify this country," Walsh said. "Maybe even a Republican presidential nominee and a Democrat vice presidential candidate, along with them."
    Mark Sanford:
    Former SC governor Mark Sanford moving his presidential operation to New Hampshire | Palmetto Politics | postandcourier.com
    Since announcing his bid in September as one of three Republicans challenging President Donald Trump, Sanford has made visits to early voting states as well as completing a week-long 3,500-mile, 11 state road trip dubbed “Kids, We’re Broke and We Don’t Even Know It.”
    Then this fun bit:

    God and the Don - STATE Magazine - CNN.com
    Trump is unique among modern American presidents for his seeming lack of deep religious orientation. He doesn't have a hometown church, and a months-long examination of the congregations he had ties to throughout his life found no evidence that Trump put down permanent roots in any of them. Congregants at his childhood church in Queens say Trump might not be welcome there today. The midtown Manhattan church he attended later in life has denied that he is a member there, and the son of its famous pastor, Norman Vincent Peale, has denounced Trump.

    To Johnston, who along with O'Connor sought the meeting with Trump, his brief encounter with the incoming president underscored Trump's tenuous attachment to organized religion and his Christian upbringing.

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    Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks pushed back on the suggestion that the President appears to lack profound religious convictions, saying in an email: "The President is a deeply faithful person." Hicks did not elaborate, other than to note that Trump is "affiliated" with Bethesda-by-the-Sea church.
    Yet the Religious Right adores him. I think that it is because of their authoritarianism. It primes them to love forceful leaders that seem to support them, no matter how odious such leaders otherwise are.

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    Ex-GOP Congressman Says Trump's 'Increasingly Erratic Behavior' Has Lost Republicans the Suburbs

    In John Dent's home state of Pennsylvania, Republicans had done well in both the suburbs and rural areas. Though the GOP recently advanced in six county governments in the southwestern and northeastern parts of the state, it lost big in some much more populated areas.
    Major losses in Bucks, Chester and Delaware counties contributed to a "widening circle" of blue that's beginning to encroach on rural and suburban areas that were the sole domain of Republicans. Dent blames the behavior of the president in office, which he calls erratic, and pointed to Trump's high unfavorability rating to prove his statement.

    Dent says, "2020 could be another terrible Republican year given President Trump's high unfavorability ratings that are driven by his increasingly erratic behavior and misconduct in office." He also called the party's policies "too nativist and socially intolerant."

    "If the Republican Party ever hopes to reclaim lost territory in the suburbs and elsewhere, it can start by rejecting isolationism and protectionism, advocating constructive international engagement by reengaging with traditional allies and defending the American-led international order, embracing diversity and inclusion, and striving to become more socially sensible."
    But will Trump and his strategists pay any attention? Given how much Trump likes to congratulate himself, I doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    Ex-GOP Congressman Says Trump's 'Increasingly Erratic Behavior' Has Lost Republicans the Suburbs

    In John Dent's home state of Pennsylvania, Republicans had done well in both the suburbs and rural areas. Though the GOP recently advanced in six county governments in the southwestern and northeastern parts of the state, it lost big in some much more populated areas.
    Major losses in Bucks, Chester and Delaware counties contributed to a "widening circle" of blue that's beginning to encroach on rural and suburban areas that were the sole domain of Republicans. Dent blames the behavior of the president in office, which he calls erratic, and pointed to Trump's high unfavorability rating to prove his statement.

    Dent says, "2020 could be another terrible Republican year given President Trump's high unfavorability ratings that are driven by his increasingly erratic behavior and misconduct in office." He also called the party's policies "too nativist and socially intolerant."

    "If the Republican Party ever hopes to reclaim lost territory in the suburbs and elsewhere, it can start by rejecting isolationism and protectionism, advocating constructive international engagement by reengaging with traditional allies and defending the American-led international order, embracing diversity and inclusion, and striving to become more socially sensible."
    But will Trump and his strategists pay any attention? Given how much Trump likes to congratulate himself, I doubt it.
    Well, to Trump's credit... his idiotic, amoral, unprofessional behavior has gotten him this far.

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    It is very uncommon for a meaningful primary challenge to an incumbent to occur. Most of those primary challengers aren't meaningful. The last time I saw a significant primary challenge to an incumbent in a presidential election was in 1980. Some people blame Ted Kennedy for Ronald Reagan's win in the general election.

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    Is there any doubt that Donald J. Trump will lose the next election in 2020?
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    Yeah, I doubt that. Big time.

    Let’s just start with a simple surface analysis. Here is a map of the states Trump is all but guaranteed to win:


    Assuming the United States doesn’t enter into a second Great Depression between now and the 2020 election, I think Trump can count on carrying at least 164 electoral votes right off the bat.

    Now let’s move onto states Trump is either likely or very likely to win in 2020. On my list (with the margins by which Trump won in 2016) are:

    Iowa (+9.6%)
    Ohio (+8.6%)
    Georgia (+5.7%)
    Of these three states, Georgia is the most competitive, however, all of these states fall outside the generally accepted 5% margin to be considered toss-up states. While Georgia may be moving towards purple state status, I believe it will remain in Republican hands for at least the foreseeable future. As for Iowa and Ohio, both states have been moving further (but not completely) into the Republicans’ camp these past few years.

    Now let’s look at states that will likely lean Republican in 2020:

    Arizona (+4.1%)
    North Carolina (+3.8%)
    Arizona is another one of those states that has been trending towards purple state status recently. With Kyrsten Sinema‘s (D) narrow victory in Arizona’s 2018 Senate race, a Republican victory is not entirely assured in 2020. However, with Trump’s strong economic numbers and the Democrats’ leftward surge, the Democratic Party will likely have trouble picking up moderate votes, which bodes well for the Trump campaign.

    North Carolina went to Trump by a fairly comfortable margin in 2016 and I see no reason why this will change. Much like in Arizona, I believe the Democrats’ progressive agenda coupled with Trump’s strong economy will be enough to push Trump to victory. I should also mention that the Republicans won both special congressional elections a little over a month ago. Overall, there seems to be more positive news than negative for Trump in North Carolina.

    Now, after we total up all of Trump’s new victories, we arrive at this map:


    Right now, Trump only needs 40 more electoral votes to win a second term. That’s two or three states at most. There certainly is opportunity for Trump to win that and then some. Here’s a list of other states that are in play for Trump:

    Florida (+1.3%)
    Pennsylvania (+1.2%)
    Wisconsin (+1.0%)
    Michigan (+0.3%)
    New Hampshire (-0.4%)
    Minnesota (-1.5%)
    Nevada (-2.4%)
    Maine (-2.7%)
    Of those states above, I believe that Florida and Pennsylvania are the most likely to stick with Trump in 2020.

    The Republicans gave an impressive effort in Florida during 2018 midterm elections, especially in the midst of the supposed “blue wave”. They retained the governor’s mansion and picked up the state’s second Senate seat. There wasn’t much positive news for Florida Democrats in 2018.

    As for Pennsylvania, I think Trump has a strong chance here too. Pennsylvania has hit record levels of employment under Trump while wages continue to rise. Trump’s tax breaks don’t hurt either as the average Pennsylvania tax payer saved nearly $1,500 on federal taxes in 2018. Couple this with the Democrats’ progressive agenda and I can certainly envision blue-collar and middle-class Pennsylvania voters sticking with Trump in 2020.

    Now, if Trump can carry Florida and Pennsylvania he will win the 2020 election.


    I happen to think he will carry Wisconsin, and possibly even Michigan and Minnesota too, for many of the same reasons that I predict he will carry Pennsylvania.

    If the economy continues its positive run into 2020 and the Democrats don’t get their sh*t together, I don’t see why New Hampshire, Nevada and Maine wouldn’t be in play either.

    As we can see, Trump isn’t facing as much of an uphill battle as some have prematurely assumed. He is an incumbent with a strong economy and a huge (yuuuuge) war chest. If there should be anyone doubting the outcome of next election it is the Democrats.

    But as with all things, time will tell.

    Until then, stay tuned!

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