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    Quote Originally Posted by Patooka View Post
    If you want to be rational, 100,000 refugees in a nation of 327,200,000 is not a crisis.
    Absolutely correct. People moaning about adding a few hundred thousand individuals to the general population have lost all sense of scale, and are mostly victims of racist propaganda. Even though illegal immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than native born citizens, the bulk of the right wind constituency is convinced by right wing media that they would be less safe if asylum were granted - to even a fraction of those trying to apply for it.
    The all-out war that this administration is waging against reality, is succeeding in perpetuating and exacerbating every paranoid delusion that is collectively harbored by the once-honorable conservative community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elixir View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Patooka View Post
    If you want to be rational, 100,000 refugees in a nation of 327,200,000 is not a crisis.
    Absolutely correct. People moaning about adding a few hundred thousand individuals to the general population have lost all sense of scale, and are mostly victims of racist propaganda. Even though illegal immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than native born citizens, the bulk of the right wind constituency is convinced by right wing media that they would be less safe if asylum were granted - to even a fraction of those trying to apply for it.
    The all-out war that this administration is waging against reality, is succeeding in perpetuating and exacerbating every paranoid delusion that is collectively harbored by the once-honorable conservative community.
    I agree with your sentiment here, but this is not a problem that started with the current administration. Obama also separated immigrant children from their parents, and used the same former Japanese internment camps that Trump is now using to house them. It's great that this is now getting covered, and perhaps it takes an outwardly fascist-friendly President to make people see the parallels rather than a smooth-talking liberal one, but the difference between their immigration policies where this matter is concerned is minor at best. Conservatives like to use this as a way of excusing Trump; what we should be doing is using it to condemn both Trump and Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PyramidHead View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patooka View Post
    If you want to be rational, 100,000 refugees in a nation of 327,200,000 is not a crisis.
    Absolutely correct. People moaning about adding a few hundred thousand individuals to the general population have lost all sense of scale, and are mostly victims of racist propaganda. Even though illegal immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than native born citizens, the bulk of the right wind constituency is convinced by right wing media that they would be less safe if asylum were granted - to even a fraction of those trying to apply for it.
    The all-out war that this administration is waging against reality, is succeeding in perpetuating and exacerbating every paranoid delusion that is collectively harbored by the once-honorable conservative community.
    I agree with your sentiment here, but this is not a problem that started with the current administration. Obama also separated immigrant children from their parents, and used the same former Japanese internment camps that Trump is now using to house them. It's great that this is now getting covered, and perhaps it takes an outwardly fascist-friendly President to make people see the parallels rather than a smooth-talking liberal one, but the difference between their immigration policies where this matter is concerned is minor at best. Conservatives like to use this as a way of excusing Trump; what we should be doing is using it to condemn both Trump and Obama.
    In order to be tried for illegal immigration, children must be separated form their parents. This was put in place by the Dems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PyramidHead View Post

    I agree with your sentiment here, but this is not a problem that started with the current administration. Obama also separated immigrant children from their parents, and used the same former Japanese internment camps that Trump is now using to house them. It's great that this is now getting covered, and perhaps it takes an outwardly fascist-friendly President to make people see the parallels rather than a smooth-talking liberal one, but the difference between their immigration policies where this matter is concerned is minor at best. Conservatives like to use this as a way of excusing Trump; what we should be doing is using it to condemn both Trump and Obama.
    In order to be tried for illegal immigration, children must be separated form their parents. This was put in place by the Dems.
    ...as for asylum seekers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PyramidHead View Post

    I agree with your sentiment here, but this is not a problem that started with the current administration. Obama also separated immigrant children from their parents, and used the same former Japanese internment camps that Trump is now using to house them. It's great that this is now getting covered, and perhaps it takes an outwardly fascist-friendly President to make people see the parallels rather than a smooth-talking liberal one, but the difference between their immigration policies where this matter is concerned is minor at best. Conservatives like to use this as a way of excusing Trump; what we should be doing is using it to condemn both Trump and Obama.
    In order to be tried for illegal immigration, children must be separated form their parents. This was put in place by the Dems.
    ...as for asylum seekers?
    It really doesn't matter what the stated rationale is. Only shithole countries separate families and put them into internment camps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PyramidHead View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins View Post
    ...as for asylum seekers?
    It really doesn't matter what the stated rationale is. Only shithole countries separate families and put them into internment camps.
    Wouldn't a better example of a "shithole country" be countries where Muslims throw gays off rooftops and behead women for not wearing hijab?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PyramidHead View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins View Post
    ...as for asylum seekers?
    It really doesn't matter what the stated rationale is. Only shithole countries separate families and put them into internment camps.
    Wouldn't a better example of a "shithole country" be countries where Muslims throw gays off rooftops and behead women for not wearing hijab?
    Yes, I very surely trust your good faith argument which is a reflection of how much you truly care about gays and women's rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PyramidHead View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post

    Wouldn't a better example of a "shithole country" be countries where Muslims throw gays off rooftops and behead women for not wearing hijab?
    Yes, I very surely trust your good faith argument which is a reflection of how much you truly care about gays and women's rights.
    Did you see the recent tweet that got tons of backlash? A woman posted a tweet that went something like this, "I love taking care of my husband and cleaning up after him!"

    https://thestir.cafemom.com/being_a_...n_part_to_he/1

    A lot of people who are anti-women bigots were complaining and screaming about this. The woman who tweeted was not forced by her husband to do anything. She enjoys it. Yet, deviate from the leftists mindset of how a woman should act and you get screamed at. Pretty sick stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PyramidHead View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post

    Wouldn't a better example of a "shithole country" be countries where Muslims throw gays off rooftops and behead women for not wearing hijab?
    Yes, I very surely trust your good faith argument which is a reflection of how much you truly care about gays and women's rights.
    Did you see the recent tweet that got tons of backlash? A woman posted a tweet that went something like this, "I love taking care of my husband and cleaning up after him!"

    https://thestir.cafemom.com/being_a_...n_part_to_he/1

    A lot of people who are anti-women bigots were complaining and screaming about this. The woman who tweeted was not forced by her husband to do anything. She enjoys it. Yet, deviate from the leftists mindset of how a woman should act and you get screamed at. Pretty sick stuff.
    This thread is about the inhumane treatment of immigrants and the right wing pretense of emergency to justify their abuses. It's not here to be your fucking hobby horse to derail off into other branches of right wing authoritarian disease.
    The Authoritarians

    GOP and Trump supporters will not be able to say they didn't know. Vote in numbers too big to manipulate.

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    Here's an odd take. Why does being born in the country entitle you to more empathy from your fellow citizens than those immigrants who may be harder working and better people? Its a strange sort of birth right if you think about it. What if we exchanged some of our home grown for immigrants? That would piss off both the left and right equally, ya?

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