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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith&Co. View Post
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    Should we allow it even if just 1 rape occurs in the women's bathroom by a trans woman?
    quick calibration, here. Are you willing to assess gun control in the same manner?
    Is the risk of even one future school shooting by someone who legally owns the gun(s) he uses enough to enact legislation?
    By HL's reasoning, no Catholic priest should ever be left unsupervised around children.

    Of course, there's abundant evidence of Catholic priests molesting children. Rapes by trans women in the bathroom? Not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ford View Post
    By HL's reasoning, no Catholic priest should ever be left unsupervised around children.
    By HL being a realist, then we should start comprehensive birth control education in kindergarten.
    The youngest pregnancy in the USA was a girl who was raped at 5, gave birth at 6. So as long as there is a non-zero chance of pregnancy, we realistically have no choice but to arm boys and girls with the knowledge to protect them. Plus, hand out condoms at book fairs.

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    Should we allow it even if just 1 rape occurs in the women's bathroom by a trans woman?
    quick calibration, here. Are you willing to assess gun control in the same manner?
    Is the risk of even one future school shooting by someone who legally owns the gun(s) he uses enough to enact legislation?
    By HL's reasoning, no Catholic priest should ever be left unsupervised around children.

    Of course, there's abundant evidence of Catholic priests molesting children. Rapes by trans women in the bathroom? Not so much.
    That would require operating by consistent principle. But the #1 principle of theologists and theologians is lick the boot of the most powerful authority because might makes right.

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    I started a thread on severely limiting priestly access to children and revamping the choir boy system (done with pressure of catholic parents of course) and got almost no response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by repoman View Post
    I started a thread on severely limiting priestly access to children and revamping the choir boy system (done with pressure of catholic parents of course) and got almost no response.
    Yeah, most people here agree with you. Some people here aren't going to go on record for pushing what they claim are their "principles" when it comes to things that they like. It is fundamentally dishonest. I would say it comes well into the region of outright lying. To claim one thing as a principle and reject it out of hand elsewhere.

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    When something is newsworthy and makes the news at some frequency, doesn’t the perceived volume increase disproportionate to the real relative volume of occurances?

    For instance, the association between group A and sexual abuse of children is X while the association between group B and sexual abuse of children is Y. If A is low compared to B but A is in the news, perceptions of X and Y diverge from reality—does it not? A will appear high when it’s B that’s high.

    Being a homosexual doesn’t imply pedophilia, but the terms are often lumped together. Certain people expect priests to behave at a higher moral standard than (oh say) homosexuals, so it’s no wonder it makes the news when a priest becomes a violator, but imagine if every instance of a homosexual abusing a child had equal coverage.

    Maybe there’s some hypocrisy angle going, and it’s not like I know the numbers, but something in the air seems misleading. It’s like when a white cop shoots a black, the number of whites being shot could be 10 times higher in cities with more blacks than whites and who would know the disparity anyway since no one seems to agree across the board on anything anyway—and it wouldn’t be newsworthy anyhow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
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    It's called being a realist and not sheltering your mind from things you don't want to think about. It would be great if I didn't have to think about Radical Islamic Terrorism, but that's not reality.

    It would be great if I didn't have to think about women being raped, but that's not reality.
    The threat to your daughter is from friends and family (or perhaps your priest), not strangers in the bathroom.
    Should we allow it even if just 1 rape occurs in the women's bathroom by a trans woman?
    Basically all arguments of this form are crap.

    Given that something like 4% of priests have abused children should we allow the practice of Christianity in this country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel View Post
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    Should we allow it even if just 1 rape occurs in the women's bathroom by a trans woman?
    Basically all arguments of this form are crap.

    Given that something like 4% of priests have abused children should we allow the practice of Christianity in this country?
    4%? And atheists demonize the WHOLE catholic church? Wow, interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmbteach View Post
    Propaganda.

    No mention of the dad telling the son, "Some people believe it's a sin for men to be with men. Jesus said it was a sin in the New Testament. Christians believe what Jesus says. They are not bigots. Murder is a sin, too. Yet, atheists don't call someone a bigot if they are against murder."

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