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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarhyn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Derec View Post
    That word salad doesn't mean much. Yes, some people misuse the word, often deliberately, like the dishonest attack on Derschowitz.



    There certainly is. There is a huge difference between being sexually attracted to a 16 year old vs. an 8 year old. And a person who can't comprehend the difference is too far gone the rabbit hole of mindless moralizing to be helped.

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    It's pedophilia. And anyone who wants to have sex with 16 year olds, other than ~16 year olds, is a pedophile.
    It's not. And again, 16 is legal in most US states, all of Canada, and most of Europe (and in many countries aoc is in fact even lower than 16!) To equate that with sex with prepubescent children is sick frankly.
    I repeat, it's pedophilia. The only ones who I generally see try to claim it isn't, who fight this, are pedophiles who want to groom young teenagers.
    Conflating attraction to post-pubescent teens with pedophilia does a grave disservice to people like me who were actual childhood victims of actual pedophiles.

    But don't let that stop you.

    It also infantalizes the victims in cases like the ones under discussion.

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    "Epstein's" corpse is no longer in government possession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Harvestdancer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jarhyn View Post

    I repeat, it's pedophilia. The only ones who I generally see try to claim it isn't, who fight this, are pedophiles who want to groom young teenagers.
    Conflating attraction to post-pubescent teens with pedophilia does a grave disservice to people like me who were actual childhood victims of actual pedophiles.

    But don't let that stop you.

    It also infantalizes the victims in cases like the ones under discussion.
    There needs to be almost as much (but different) a stigma for middle aged people grooming, sex trafficking adolescent teens as doing the same with eight year olds.

    But getting everyone behind one word that has the punch of the inaccurate word pedophile is not going to happen though it should.

    Adolescentophile?

    Ok, can you agree that a higher level of punishment should be given for a 40 year old molesting an eight year old than a 15 year old? The latter still being strongly punished....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    What was going on here? It seems like major-league negligence. Or else some of his jailers wanted to let him get himself out of the way, and save them from unpleasant visibility or whatever they might be worried about.
    What happened was something that happens all the time in America's prison system. The one bit of solace that could have come out of this situation unfortunately was tied to the railroad tracks and run over by the conspiracy train.

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    What do you get when you cross Bill Clinton and Donald Trump?


    Found in your cell, unresponsive


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    Coroner says suicide. Body no longer in government custody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by repoman View Post
    Coroner says suicide. Body no longer in government custody.
    Nobody is surprised by this. Well, except maybe the people who are required to believe the official story no matter how unlikely.

    How long until the body is cremated before anyone else gets a chance to examine it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by repoman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Harvestdancer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jarhyn View Post

    I repeat, it's pedophilia. The only ones who I generally see try to claim it isn't, who fight this, are pedophiles who want to groom young teenagers.
    Conflating attraction to post-pubescent teens with pedophilia does a grave disservice to people like me who were actual childhood victims of actual pedophiles.

    But don't let that stop you.

    It also infantalizes the victims in cases like the ones under discussion.
    There needs to be almost as much (but different) a stigma for middle aged people grooming, sex trafficking adolescent teens as doing the same with eight year olds.

    But getting everyone behind one word that has the punch of the inaccurate word pedophile is not going to happen though it should.

    Adolescentophile?

    Ok, can you agree that a higher level of punishment should be given for a 40 year old molesting an eight year old than a 15 year old? The latter still being strongly punished....

    From Wikipedia
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    Ephebophilia is when an adult is mostly or only sexually attracted to post-pubescent teenagers
    ...

    Adult men grooming or trafficking or other wise abusing young girls like Epstein or Roy Moore is not socially acceptable. This should not be derailed by an argument about proper nomenclature.
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    Steven Mnuchin’s Mysterious Link to Creepy Epstein Model Scout

    The Treasury secretary’s name shows up on official records for a company formed in the 1980s by Jeffrey Epstein’s close friend, the model scout Jean-Luc Brunel.

    In the late 1980s—before he was a member of Donald Trump’s Cabinet, or even a high-rolling hedge-fund manager—Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin served in an official capacity for a business run by one of Jeffrey Epstein’s most infamous associates.

    In official records, Mnuchin is listed as the official state point of contact for Next Management Corporation, a company formed in 1988 by modeling-industry insiders Jean-Luc Brunel and Arnaud Brunel. At the time, Jean-Luc Brunel had just been the subject of a 60 Minutes documentary accusing him of drugging and raping at least three models. Later, he would be accused by two women of supplying girls to Epstein to be sexually abused. (Brunel has denied the allegations.)

    Records accessed by The Daily Beast list Mnuchin as the New York Department of State process for Next Management Corporation. According to department officials, the DOS process is the person who files a company’s registration papers and receives lawsuits and other official documents on their behalf—usually a lawyer or some other legal representative.
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