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    The effects of warming: Kilodeaths

    https://phys.org/news/2019-08-half-a...rly-urban.html

    Half a degree = 30k deaths just from China's urban areas. Worldwide the total is obviously going to be a lot higher.

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    From the reports for decades global food security has been rising and poverty going down.

    Food security is now declining due to warming and effects on agriculture. Deaths are rising in marginal areas. That in turn increases poverty.

    The USA is predicted to become a net food importer in the future.

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    Titled OP link: Half-a-degree warmer means 30,000 more deaths yearly in urban China: study

    Civilization could crumble by 2050 if we don't stop climate change now, new paper says - "Warming climate could bring "outright chaos" unless urgent steps are taken, according to the paper's authors."

    Noting Existential climate-related security risk: A scenario approach
    This week, a new policy paper from an Australian think tank claims that those other reports are slightly off; the risks of climate change are actually much, much worse than anyone can imagine.

    According to the paper, climate change poses a "near- to mid-term existential threat to human civilization," and there's a good chance society could collapse as soon as 2050 if serious mitigation actions aren't taken in the next decade.

    "Thirty-five percent of the global land area, and 55 percent of the global population, are subject to more than 20 days a year of lethal heat conditions, beyond the threshold of human survivability," the authors hypothesized.

    Meanwhile, droughts, floods and wildfires regularly ravage the land. Nearly one-third of the world's land surface turns to desert. Entire ecosystems collapse, beginning with the planet's coral reefs, the rainforest and the Arctic ice sheets. The world's tropics are hit hardest by these new climate extremes, destroying the region's agriculture and turning more than 1 billion people into refugees.
    All those refugees will have to go somewhere, and that means a LOT of trouble.

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    Trump administration removes quarter of all climate change references from government websites | The Independent - "Researchers warn move has 'severely weakened public access' to information about environment"
    Donald Trump’s administration has removed a quarter of all references to climate change from federal government websites since 2016, researchers have found.

    Agencies’ usage of broad environmental terms which “undermine clear analysis” has grown at a similar rate over the same period in a move that has “severely weakened public access” to information, a report warned.

    The Environmental Data and Governance Initiative (EDGS), which published the research, analysed more than 5,300 pages on the websites of 23 federal agencies.

    It found usage of the terms “climate change,” “clean energy,” and “adaptation” had dropped 25 per cent since Mr Trump’s inauguration as president. There were 4,912 mentions of “climate change” on the websites analysed in 2018, compared to 6,552 in 2016.

    Over the same period, researchers said, the frequency of “catch-all terms that are employed to undermine clear analysis” increased by 26 per cent. Such terms cited by the report included “energy independence,” “resilience,” and “sustainability”.
    Seems like what Stephen Harper did in Canada - and like Lysenkoism.

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    I don’t think you guys are getting it. It’s not about anyone being in denial. This is what is wanted. This is what is being chosen. If we aren’t going to have any more “world wars”—and releasing a viral epidemic would be too unpredictable—then billions of deaths as a result of (either directly or, first and foremost, indirectly) climate change is the next best thing.

    The thought that first goes through pretty much any rich person’s head when they read the news or watch TV or just go out and about in the world and have to deal with any other people that aren’t as rich as they are is, “When are all of these other assholes going to die already?”

    I mean, let’s be honest; it’s what goes through most of our own heads too and few if any of us here are rich.

    Whether it’s an accurate assessment of reality or not, rich people not only do not believe climate change will effect them in any way, shape or form, they are literally banking on the fact that it will kill billions of people so that they can have all of that room/resources to themselves.

    THAT and that alone is the reason why no one in the upper echelons is doing anything to stop—or, at this point, abate, since it’s long past the stopping point—anything at all to do with climate change. We’ve known about his for well over fifty years, after all.

    It’s not a death wish; it’s a narcissistic inability to believe that they will ever be in any way harmed and that billions dying will be what this globe (and they) need.

    In short, surprise surprise, they can’t wait for sea levels to rise and billions to die. Can’t wait! Far from planning against it, they are actively planning for it. Why do you think our military budget is so astronomically high? We fight no one. We have no enemies. We have not had an actual enemy since WWII and even then it took us several years to even really give a fuck.

    “Terrorists” have never amounted to anything more than mosquitoes ffs. Yes, that includes 9/11. In the big historical scheme of things, that was a fucking smack on the wrist with a tiny, little ruler.

    We have carpet bombed entire cities, murdering hundreds of thousands of completely innocent men, women and children. We are still the only nation to have ever used nukes—TWICE— when neither was militarily necessary.

    So, again, sorry incredulous ones, but if you haven’t figured out by now what the agenda is, then you’re simply going to be fodder. Well, even if you have, you’re simply fodder, but that should be a given.

    As far as changing anything, it’s way too fucking late for that. We have already been poisoned. We are already dead. It’s just going to take a little time for the poison to travel through the bloodstream is all.

    And the ones that poisoned us are all—very quietly—selling their beach front property to idiots who don’t know any better.

    No matter where you live the rich will always survive longer than any other fringe elements, so it really does not matter to them if all of us die or kill each other in desperation.

    Short of something immediately cataclysmic (like a planet killer meteorite), decades long encroachment and all of the changes in environment that will result won’t ever effect any rich person. And by the time billions have either died or been killed in any “wars” the problem with be solved.

    I can guarantee you that someone like Bill Gates—through no malicious intent on his own, of course—has already planned for the next one hundred years for his family and fortified all of his homes/properties to the point where nothing will ever impact them beyond too much daily trouble.

    I don’t mean he’s built fall out shelters, but I do mean his properties are likely already so intelligently designed and outfitted so as to keep generations of his family perfectly safe in a multitude of different forward thinking, energy efficient ways that none of us have probably ever heard of. Way beyond solar, iow.

    And with each passing year, he is no doubt updating and ensuring—in his will, if by no other means—that such updating and considerations are constantly being tended to.

    Again, not in any malicious sense, just in a “I’ve got billions of dollars and can’t even give it all away fast enough, so I’ll just keep spending a shit load on making my homes and family safe for generations.”

    So while others eventually—those that survive—fight over moldy bread in the water soaked canals of New York, the rich will have moved into their mountain retreats long before.

    And don’t think I’m picking on cities just for the fun of it; the rural plains are already the first to die through excessive floods and droughts and hurricanes and other forms of increasingly overwhelming weather forces that will simply destroy everything in the middle of America first and foremost, LONG before all of the coastal cities are gradually turned into Venice.

    Everyone that voted for Trump will be dead within the next forty years and not just from old age, of course. You all (and the Dems that refused to move) will be repeatedly and constantly devastated by natural disasters that simply won’t stop. We’re already seeing that happening, in fact, and it will just keep increasing in both severity and unpredictability.

    Ask any farmer you know, there is no way that a farm can sustain any meaningful crops when the weather changes twenty to forty degrees from morning to night.

    And a shitload of you idiots will insist it’s “wrath of god” shit and your cult leaders—who will all be joining those rich assholes that knew it was happening and deliberately didn’t do shit to stop it—will be blaming you for it all as they high tail it up into the safer areas.

    This is why all the “malitias” have been driven down out of the mountains to vote . So all those assholes will be killed too in the mounting “civil wars” that Trump is already trying to foment. All the conspiracy theory inculcation; all of the Breitbart bullshit; it’s all designed to basically gather you all up in a neat little circle so that after you’re all dead, you’ll be easier to bulldoze into mass graves.

    Exactly the same plan, btw, that was behind the supposed nuclear bomb “survival” cartoons every kid in America was forced to watch in the fifties and sixties. “Duck and cover” and “fallout shelters” were all actually designed to make it easier for the grave diggers. True. Absolutely true.

    So that’s all fun.

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    This guy seems to know more about climate than the average bear! A leading author to the IPCC.

    Professor Andy Pitman who says GW/CC/CD has nothing to do with droughts or a y weather events!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koyaanisqatsi View Post
    Exactly the same plan, btw, that was behind the supposed nuclear bomb “survival” cartoons every kid in America was forced to watch in the fifties and sixties. “Duck and cover” and “fallout shelters” were all actually designed to make it easier for the grave diggers. True. Absolutely true.

    So that’s all fun.
    This makes no sense. After a nuclear war there aren't going to be grave diggers.

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    Who or how many survive depends on the nature and scale of the disaster.

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    Sweltering heat to grip parts of 13 states in South, Midwest [Video] - the ones mentioned: TX, LA, FL, MO, IL, AR, MI, OK

    National Weather Service - as I write this (Aug 13), there is an "Excessive Heat Warning" for MS and parts of nearby states, and a "Heat Advisory" out to a little bit further - TX, GA, S end of IL. Also an EHW for parts of S AZ, CA.

    Killer Heat in the United States: Climate Choices and the Future of Dangerously Hot Days (2019) | Union of Concerned Scientists
    The United States is facing a potentially staggering expansion of dangerous heat over the coming decades.

    This analysis shows the rapid, widespread increases in extreme heat that are projected to occur across the country due to climate change, including conditions so extreme that a heat index cannot be measured. The analysis also finds that the intensity of the coming heat depends heavily on how quickly we act now to reduce heat-trapping emissions.

    The results highlight a stark choice: We can continue on our current path, where we fail to reduce emissions and extreme heat soars. Or we can take bold action now to dramatically reduce emissions and prevent the worst from becoming reality.
    The same is true of much of the rest of the world, I'm sure.

    That page links to some interactive pages that show how many days above various heat thresholds. Killer Heat in the United States: The Future of Dangerously Hot Days the US by county. One can download fact sheets for each Congressional district in Killer Heat in the United States, by Congressional District: The Future of Dangerously Hot Days

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    The 10 Hottest Global Years on Record | Climate Central - 2016, 2017, 2015, 2018, 2014, 2010, 2005, 2013, 2009, 1998

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