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Thread: Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib banned from entering Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laughing dog View Post
    I responded to post #7 which contained nothing about Tlaib backtracking, so what anyone could see was limited.
    Do you see it now, or are you still feigning blindness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patooka View Post
    If the National Review has them in their sights, Tlaib and Omar must be doing something right.
    Nope. They are complete wastes of oxygen, just like that corporal of theirs and that fourth one whom nobody can remember.

    It's reassuring that we are going back to the tired old argument that any criticism of Israel instantly means anti-semitism.
    Except nobody has made that argument ever. Have you even read the article? The organization that was sponsoring them is supporting suicide terrorists who murdered Israeli civilians.
    Quote Originally Posted by National Review
    The group celebrates terrorists, including an evil woman who helped murder 13 Israeli children. In an article titled “Let Us Honor Our Own,” a Miftah contributor describes Dalal Al Mughrabi as “a Palestinian fighter who was killed during a military operation against Israel in 1978” and as one of the Palestinian people’s “national heroes.”

    The so-called “military operation” is more widely known as the “Coastal Road Massacre,” a bus hijacking that resulted in the deaths of 38 Israeli civilians, including 13 children.

    Al Mughrabi is hardly the only terrorist Miftah celebrates. It described female suicide bomber Wafa Idrees as the “the beginning of a string of Palestinian women dedicated to sacrificing their lives for the cause.” It singles out for recognition Hanadi Jaradat, a woman who blew herself up in a restaurant, killing 21 people (including four children).
    But I guess to you that's just "criticism of Israel", right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derec View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by laughing dog View Post
    I responded to post #7 which contained nothing about Tlaib backtracking, so what anyone could see was limited.
    Do you see it now, or are you still feigning blindness?
    I think representatives of Congress should not be treat differently than any other visitor to a country. I think countries should only require visitors to obey the laws of their country as a condition of entry. I think countries should resist the petty demands of petulant jackasses to reverse their permission for entry to visitors. I think politicians should be above engaging cheap political stunts.

    So, unlike the bigots and kneejerk ideologues, I see that Tlaib, Trump, and the gov't of Israel come out of this looking like asses.

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    It takes a mentally sick individual to say, "I'm gonna tell Israel my grandma is sick and show you how they wont allow me to go there!" Then Israel says "OK, you can go" and she says "No no no I'm not going!"

    Derangement and sickness is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    It takes a mentally sick individual to say, "I'm gonna tell Israel my grandma is sick and show you how they wont allow me to go there!" Then Israel says "OK, you can go" and she says "No no no I'm not going!"
    That is not what happened. She asked, Israel said yes, then they said no, then they said yes and she said no.
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    Derangement and sickness is what it is.
    Ms. Tlaib was no worse than the gov't of Israel and Mr. Trump in that regard. Yet for some reason, some people only focus on the woman of color's behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laughing dog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    It takes a mentally sick individual to say, "I'm gonna tell Israel my grandma is sick and show you how they wont allow me to go there!" Then Israel says "OK, you can go" and she says "No no no I'm not going!"
    That is not what happened. She asked, Israel said yes, then they said no, then they said yes and she said no.
    A think a more accurate chronology of events would be "She asked, Israel said yes, then Trump said you shouldn't, so Israel said no, then they said yes with conditions and she said this is getting ridiculous, fuckit nevermind."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    It takes a mentally sick individual to say, "I'm gonna tell Israel my grandma is sick and show you how they wont allow me to go there!" Then Israel says "OK, you can go" and she says "No no no I'm not going!"
    It looks more like Israel is trying to please both sides.
    Tell Trump they won't let his political rivals into the country, but show the rest of the world that they will be humanitarians in some cases.

    I can see not wanting to cooperate with this two-faced approach. Either she should be allowed to travel as someone who has nit broken any laws in Israel or the US, or Israel should be held accountable for playing Trump's petty shenanigans.

    Derangement and sickness is what it is
    i have to think, if
    1) Hillary was president
    2) she pulled strings so Trump could not travel to, say, Scotland
    3) Scotland announced tgat Trump could come but
    A) could only go to his golf course
    B) could not make any business deals on this visit
    4) Trump refused to go

    ....then you would be lauding him for taking a moral stance against the wicked witch's childish one-up-statesmanship

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith&Co. View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    It takes a mentally sick individual to say, "I'm gonna tell Israel my grandma is sick and show you how they wont allow me to go there!" Then Israel says "OK, you can go" and she says "No no no I'm not going!"
    It looks more like Israel is trying to please both sides.
    Tell Trump they won't let his political rivals into the country, but show the rest of the world that they will be humanitarians in some cases.

    I can see not wanting to cooperate with this two-faced approach. Either she should be allowed to travel as someone who has nit broken any laws in Israel or the US, or Israel should be held accountable for playing Trump's petty shenanigans.

    Derangement and sickness is what it is
    i have to think, if
    1) Hillary was president
    2) she pulled strings so Trump could not travel to, say, Scotland
    3) Scotland announced tgat Trump could come but
    A) could only go to his golf course
    B) could not make any business deals on this visit
    4) Trump refused to go

    ....then you would be lauding him for taking a moral stance against the wicked witch's childish one-up-statesmanship
    Sorry for derail, but it also goes to show how awful an ally that Trump is. Trump put Israel in a difficult position. It's no-win for them. I'm not defending Israel but more stating that Trump is by far the worst president that we've ever had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Bosch View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Keith&Co. View Post

    It looks more like Israel is trying to please both sides.
    Tell Trump they won't let his political rivals into the country, but show the rest of the world that they will be humanitarians in some cases.

    I can see not wanting to cooperate with this two-faced approach. Either she should be allowed to travel as someone who has nit broken any laws in Israel or the US, or Israel should be held accountable for playing Trump's petty shenanigans.

    i have to think, if
    1) Hillary was president
    2) she pulled strings so Trump could not travel to, say, Scotland
    3) Scotland announced tgat Trump could come but
    A) could only go to his golf course
    B) could not make any business deals on this visit
    4) Trump refused to go

    ....then you would be lauding him for taking a moral stance against the wicked witch's childish one-up-statesmanship
    Sorry for derail, but it also goes to show how awful an ally that Trump is. Trump put Israel in a difficult position. It's no-win for them. I'm not defending Israel but more stating that Trump is by far the worst president that we've ever had.
    The gov't of Israel did ignore Trump's wishes when they were privately expressed which shows its initial instincts were right on. They knew they were being trolled by Omar and Tlaib, but they knew that openess was the proper move from a PR point of view. When the gov't of Israel cravenly acceded to the political wish of Mr. Trump, they lost the high ground. And while their subsequent reversal did help the optics of attempting to regain it, it also highlighted their cravenness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laughing dog View Post
    ...while their subsequent reversal did help the optics of attempting to regain it, it also highlighted their cravenness.
    It certainly opened themselves up to a nice poke in the eye from Tlaib, and then a little kick in the shins from her grandma.

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