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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith&Co. View Post
    The more a society treats everyone as equals the more civilized it is.
    This really requires a definition of 'civilized.'
    That is the definition of civilized
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    Quote Originally Posted by no-one-particular View Post
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    What would you use as a distinction between 'real nonmaterial' things and 'imaginary nonmaterial' things? And as long as it remains 'just an idea,' it's imaginary.
    We can list the rules that create and/or govern it, such as to make the imaginary circle different from an imaginary square, but it's still pretty imaginary.
    No. As long as it remains 'just an idea' it is nonmaterial. Love is a real thing even though it is nonmaterial.
    Chemical changes in the brain are real. Love is an imaginary concept associated with those changes and the feelings they create.
    Reality is why doesn't go away when you're not looking at it . Love doesn't go away when you're not looking at it
    So, you've never been infatuated, and had people tell you 'it's not real.'
    And never grown out of that infatuation...

    Reality is what's there no matter who is looking at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no-one-particular View Post
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    The more a society treats everyone as equals the more civilized it is.
    This really requires a definition of 'civilized.'
    That is the definition of civilized
    No, you're giving examples and calling it civilized.
    Not the same thing as a definition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith&Co. View Post
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    That is the definition of civilized
    No, you're giving examples and calling it civilized.
    Not the same thing as a definition.
    No I gave the definition. Everything else follows from that definition
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    Quote Originally Posted by no-one-particular View Post
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    That is the definition of civilized
    No, you're giving examples and calling it civilized.
    Not the same thing as a definition.
    No I gave the definition. Everything else follows from that definition
    No.
    You have not given a definition. At best you've given standards for what you term 'civilized.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith&Co. View Post
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    No I gave the definition. Everything else follows from that definition
    No.
    You have not given a definition. At best you've given standards for what you term 'civilized.'
    Everything else follows from the definition that I gave
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith&Co. View Post
    Chemical changes in the brain are real. Love is an imaginary concept associated with those changes and the feelings they create.
    Reality is why doesn't go away when you're not looking at it . Love doesn't go away when you're not looking at it
    So, you've never been infatuated, and had people tell you 'it's not real.'
    And never grown out of that infatuation...

    Reality is what's there no matter who is looking at it.
    So you make no distinction between a circle (which is real) and a square circle (which is imaginary)?

    I think I see now whats wrong with this world
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    Quote Originally Posted by no-one-particular View Post
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    No I gave the definition. Everything else follows from that definition
    No.
    You have not given a definition. At best you've given standards for what you term 'civilized.'
    Everything else follows from the definition that I gave
    "consistent with' is not the same as 'defined by.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith&Co. View Post
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    Everything else follows from the definition that I gave
    "consistent with' is not the same as 'defined by.'
    I didn't say it was consistent with. You are saying that I am saying consistent with. I am saying it is defined by
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    Quote Originally Posted by no-one-particular View Post
    So you make no distinction between a circle (which is real) and a square circle (which is imaginary)?
    I never said that.
    There are certainly distinctions between imaginary things that can and cannot be easily represented in a physical form.
    But 'real/imaginary' is not THE distinction I would make.
    I think I see now whats wrong with this world
    What's.

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