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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
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    You leapt from
    “You can’t PROVE that things exist outside your mind,”
    Straight to
    “We KNOW that things are only known through minds.”

    And thence to
    -> therefore they don’t exist at all until a magic creature imagines them into being.
    So why do atheists leap from, "You can't PROVE God exists!" straight to, "This means I know God doesn't exist!"

    No atheist can answer the question, "What evidence lead you to believe there is no God?" because there is no evidence God doesn't exist.
    Quantum Field Theory provides plenty of excellent evidence that nothing 'supernatural' can exist that interacts with humans. No gods, souls, spirits, ghosts, telepathic powers, prayers, telekinesis, astral projection, or anything else not mediated by one of the four fundamental forces/fields/bosons of the Standard Model.

    Your ignorance of the excellent and very well tested evidence against your claims changes nothing. Almost all god concepts, and most of the associated woo about an afterlife, the power of prayer, or intervention by gods in human affairs, are provably false.

    This remains true whether or not you have the ability or the diligence to learn those proofs.

    You are simply wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post

    "God doesn't exist" is a statement with no evidence.

    As we stand, there is no evidence to support a justified belief in the existence of God or gods. Which is why holding a belief/conviction in the existence of these things is a matter of faith.
    And always will be.

    There's quite frankly plenty of evidence that magic and magical creatures like gods and superheroes are not real. There's also plenty of evidence that despite this fact lots of people still cling to their magic and their magical heroes.

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    That which can be used to support a position and also support the opposite position supports nothing.

    Half-Life states
    "God doesn't exist" is a statement with no evidence.
    But "God exists" is also a statement with no evidence.

    Of course since nothing exists outside my mind anyway Half-Life doesn't exist either. Certainly not this "God" thing Half-Life appears to be imagining. Nor do any of the rest of you clowns for that matter. You're just there as a mental diversion, created as a delusion by my mind because otherwise it would be bored.

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    So, Half, do you believe that garden fairies, Santa, pixies and leprechauns exist? No? Can you prove they don't exist? I didn't think so.

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    Where is it biblicaly derived that something exists when god looks at it. Christians seem to know the will, intent, and mind of an all powerful god. How is thjat so if it is not in the bible? Do you just know or does god speak to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bilby View Post

    Quantum Field Theory provides plenty of excellent evidence that nothing 'supernatural' can exist that interacts with humans. No gods, souls, spirits, ghosts, telepathic powers, prayers, telekinesis, astral projection, or anything else not mediated by one of the four fundamental forces/fields/bosons of the Standard Model.
    Quantum theory doesn't tell you what "supernatural" consists of, and it doesn't tell you what kind of processes would be involved to be defined as such. Sure we have had the term supernatural for centuries but it was a discription of something "unknown, mysterious, not normal, beyond human comprehension. To say that nothing supernatural can interact with humans is to imply that we know what supernatural actually IS and how it should work (or not work), in the quantum universe (if in consideration one would know the full workings).


    Are you (plural) so sure to the claims that such "notions" would require the suspension of the laws of physics or that supernatural could not alternatively mean the manipulation of forces?

    I make no claim here btw that science tells you either way which corroborates with southerns post:

    Quote Originally Posted by southernhybrid View Post
    do you believe that garden fairies, Santa, pixies and leprechauns exist? No? Can you prove they don't exist? I didn't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
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    Where is it biblicaly derived that something exists when god looks at it. Christians seem to know the will, intent, and mind of an all powerful god. How is thjat so if it is not in the bible? Do you just know or does god speak to you?
    The bible expresses Gods will (the do's and don't's) which doesn't of course tell us ALL about God's mind.

    (apologies Halfie for interjecting)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Learner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
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    Where is it biblicaly derived that something exists when god looks at it. Christians seem to know the will, intent, and mind of an all powerful god. How is thjat so if it is not in the bible? Do you just know or does god speak to you?
    The bible expresses Gods will (the do's and don't's) which doesn't of course tell us ALL about God's mind.

    (apologies Halfie for interjecting)
    What someone is said to value tells us something about their character and how they think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
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    Where is it biblicaly derived that something exists when god looks at it. Christians seem to know the will, intent, and mind of an all powerful god. How is thjat so if it is not in the bible? Do you just know or does god speak to you?
    The bible expresses Gods will (the do's and don't's) which doesn't of course tell us ALL about God's mind.

    (apologies Halfie for interjecting)
    What someone is said to value tells us something about their character and how they think.
    If I'm getting this right, you disagree with steve_banks previous post.

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