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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins View Post
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    A lot of Christianity is a Jesus cult. Utter adoration and worship.
    Since when was protestantism a Jesus cult? Those folk worship Paul.
    Yes, but Paul told them they're Jesusists. So they like to think they're Jesusists.

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    But Pauline Jesusists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skepticalbip View Post
    But Pauline Jesusists.
    Sure. But many of these are people who insist it's not a religion, anyway. It's a 'relationship with Paul Christ.'

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    I have always said it should be called Paulism. It was Paul who got rid of Jewish requitements like circumcison and kosher diet.

    A man is a Jew not by circumcision but by heart or something like that.

    Christianity is a cult, and a cult that worships pain and suffering in the name of Jesus. 'The Blood' is a central theme in Christianity. Opus Dei the secretive ultra conservative RCC group wear a spiked collar around the the thigh.

    Augustine said a little self flagellation is good for the soul. One of the recent popes had an apparatus for self abuse.

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    Agreeing with posts 280 - 284 (and whoever wrote earlier posts that I don't have time to scan.) Assuming you could drag Jesus back from the dead, can you imagine what he'd say about the New Testament, especially the letters that can be reasonably attributed to Paul. Especially Romans. "You know, I aspired to be a rabbi, and maybe a prophet, and just maybe assume the role of Messiah. But did you guys notice that I was Jewish and didn't join any sect that broke away from Judaism? So, yeah, I didn't eat pig and was circumcised and issued orders to preach only to Jews and wanted to restore the 12 tribes and observed the high holy days, but, whatever, you can leave all that behind. Also, you folks who think my mom still has my ear and can sway me, you did read how I dissed her in public, in front of her friends, did you not? I mean, my mom was not the boss of me. And holy? Floating up into heaven or whatever? Somehow I doubt it. She was something of a noodge, y'know. And, just saying, our house was small and the rooms were close together. That stuff about her staying immaculate...not so much."

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    Anti Jewish and hate of Jews by white Christians always seems like a cognitive disconnect. Statues and paintings of a tall white Jesus with flowing blonde hair and blue eyes. I can still picture the beg cross and Jesus in the church I went to as a kid.

    Reality more like short dark black haired Arab-Palestinians today. People were shorter from nutrition.



    He was a Jew who never renounced Judaism, in fact he was more of a Jewish reformer warning Jews return to traditional values and get rid of hypocrisy or else Israel faces destruction.

    A classic Jewish prophet.

    Reading into the gospels he was probably challenging a corr[t Jerusalem elite in cahoots with Romans. From the tale he was destined from the start to end badly. Imagine a Muslim reformer against the corrupt elate in Saudi Arabia. Such people were beheaded at lest as late as the 90s. In Iran such a religious reformer calling out corruption and hypocrisy would disappear in the prisons.

    The gospels make sense in the light of the geopolitics of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
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    Statues and paintings of a tall white Jesus with flowing blonde hair and blue eyes. I can still picture the beg cross and Jesus in the church I went to as a kid.
    The depictions of Jesus are recruiting tools. For a European audience, Jesus is depicted as European, for an African audience he is depicted as African, and for an Oriental audience he is depicted as Oriental.
    Reality more like short dark black haired Arab-Palestinians today. People were shorter from nutrition.
    Agreed. My guess is that Jesus looked more like Yasser Arafat than any of the current depictions.

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    I want a Jesus with tentacles.
    Cheerful Charlie

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    "Save me, Hentai Jesus, save me! Don't, you know touch me, but..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    That is where you have it wrong. Science has never proven that no God is required. They have merely said, "We can't tell if God exists." There's a subtle difference, Keith. It is my belief that none of this stuff you guys study would even be possible without God. Science just assume it's possible without God. But, assumptions are not proof. They are beliefs, just like my belief.
    If God can't be demonstrated as having any effect over what we'd expect without God, what use is God? Your God is either non-existent or so silent and inconsequential that he may as well not exist.

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