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    Quote Originally Posted by spikepipsqueak View Post
    Ran across a program yesterday where someone said out loud something that logic has always suggested to me.

    The claim that meat uses huge resources in production is based on intensive factory farming methods. Livestock that is grass fed in paddocks - not so much.
    Which is why we should greatly reduce meat consumption. If it were all being raised sustainably, there'd be no ecological issue. But it obviously is not, and volume of demand has a lot to do with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bilby View Post
    It's a rarely mentioned fact that people (particularly rich people) don't really eat many fully grown animals. We prefer to eat babies - particularly lamb, but most beef and pork comes from relatively young animals too.

    Dairy cows live much longer lives than those raised for meat, even when the meat is beef rather than veal.

    Some people find this disturbing; But of course if they weren't raised for meat, milk, or eggs, most domesticated animals wouldn't exist at all.

    If everyone became a vegetarian, livestock species would rapidly become extinct (or at least endangered).

    It seems unlikely that widespread vegetarianism would be only positive for our environment, though it would probably be a net positive. The negative effects are certainly something we should consider, in the unlikely event that such a behavioural shift became plausible.
    I’m a bit more worried about the global impact on antibiotic resistance due to the huge amounts used to grow meat. That’ll likely have a bigger effect than any large switch to vegetarianism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Politesse View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by spikepipsqueak View Post
    Ran across a program yesterday where someone said out loud something that logic has always suggested to me.

    The claim that meat uses huge resources in production is based on intensive factory farming methods. Livestock that is grass fed in paddocks - not so much.
    Which is why we should greatly reduce meat consumption.
    You could go some way to achieving that by also reducing the number of consumers in general.

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