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    There is certainly a lot of "toxic femininity" around, and most of it goes under some form of feminism. But it can't be confined to a particular wave. 2nd wave feminists from the 1980s (Dworkin, McKinnon, Brownmiller, Steinem) were pretty toxic and misandrist themselves, as are some contemporary movement feminists like Julie Bindel, Jessica Valenti etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheerful Charlie View Post
    towards a common goal of ending violence against women
    "Violence" like grid girls in Formula 1 or nude paintings in art museums?

    in order to free them for the options to take the paths they desire;
    More like free them from the options the matriarchy doesn't approve of, like being a sex worker or even a grid/ring girl.

    It is about violence against women. Violence, rape, groping etc. Are you really this incapable of rational thinking? Or are ypu simply not putting forth any effort to reason about any of this?
    If you were thinking rationally yourself, you'd realize that this illiberal breed of feminism is hardly just about "violence". And even when it is about violence, it's about assuming that women don't lie about rape and similar nonsense. Accusation to radfems means guilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarhyn View Post
    Small penis is only an insult to people who are insecure about it. I know of at least one Twitter feed I visit regularly because he's got a micropeen, owns it, and it's sexy as fuck.
    You find micropenses sexy? Why?
    And by the way, to stay on that theme, I've always found this scene hilarious.

    I would never make fun of someone for having a micropenis. On the other hand I would definitely mock someone for being so insecure about it that they feel they have to "compensate".
    So you would insinuate somebody has a small penis because they may own a big truck/sports car or an assault-style rifle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toni View Post
    I understand the intended humor of the above but the bigotry against the south and rural America is as ugly as it is unwarranted and unacceptable.
    And the worst thing is that had somebody made the same joke about Muslims, he'd probably be downvoted by Zipr for "islamophobia".

    Brother makes a good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith&Co. View Post
    um, if you're an incel, it's not because no woman gave you a chance.
    You get lots of chances. And miss.
    Why do you presume to know that? You really don't.
    People who are considered attractive/charming etc. and who naturally attract women have no idea what men who aren't go through.

    There is also reality that there are a lot of "players" who have a number of "side chicks". Since in the human species there are similar numbers of men and women, players having a relationship with several women (effectively an informal polygyny) at the same time means that there aren't enough women for the entire male population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurtinbuckaroo View Post
    Only an incel could think an experienced woman is a "leftover".
    It's not, at least to me, that they are "leftovers" but that they ignored me while I was younger and biologically in my sexual prime. Why should I give them time of day now when they didn't do that before? Turnabout is fair play.
    But there are always hookers, so it's all good man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleDon View Post
    No, I am trying to say that that this entire thread is based on conspiracy theories about feminism, that the entire forth wave is really about emasculating white males.
    It's not really a "conspiracy theory" as much of contemporary feminism is misandry.

    It is an example of the polarization that has taken hold of us. That everything is a zero-sum game,, in order for one group to move forward another group has to suffer a movement backward. That for women to advance means that men must lose something. That blacks can only improve their position by whites being disadvantaged.
    Good parallel! Of course blacks improving their position doesn't mean that whites must be disadvantaged. But so much black racial activism is just about that, be it support for racial preferences or reparations.

    That the collective is forced to trample the individual.
    And yes, both radical feminism and black nationalism are rooted in collectivism. Black Panthers read the quotations of Chairman Mao and styled their leaders as "chairman" as well (even if they were so ignorant that they thought "Mao" was Mao Zedong's first name, hence "Chairman Fred" et al). And much of radical feminism is outright socialist as well.


    None of these are true
    Of course they are true. Not of everybody of course, but it is a large block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    Context is key. Trump was doing an impression of the man, which is acceptable. He wasn't actually making fun of him for being disabled.
    Actually, he was. He was mocking his disability in an attempt to marginalize what the man was saying about Trump, since it was uncomplimentary. That's the context.
    Subtle difference, Keith.
    No, this is a made-up apology. Trump was not having fun WITH the reporter, he was outrageously exaggerating his disability so people will not pay attention to his criticism of Trump.
    That's what Trump does.

    All the fucking time.

    The disability just made for easier mockery than having to come up with a nickname like 'crooked' or whatever.

    Note that your response THEN was not 'only having fun,' it was that he was doing the same thing as South Park, which you explicitly said were making fun of the disability.
    Now you want to change your story because your sins have come back to haunt you.

    Sadly, your previous words are still accessible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    Stuff like that is the toxic nature of women.
    And this is why people label you as misogynistic. Pick a few anecdotes and use that to define the whole gender.

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    It is sort of like posting an image of a Nazi flag waving neck beard at a demonstration and holding that up as being the average Republican. That would make right wingers howl. But they love doing that towards "leftists" and feminists.
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