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    Quote Originally Posted by Learner View Post
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    The irony here it seems, is when you're looking from the view that on both religious and scientific terms, they seem to be quite extreme. It does look like science is accepted here.
    Nope. These are people who will make a distinction between Real Science and the science that leads places they do not want to go.
    They define the split not because they can find fault in the process or the peer review, just the conclusions. And that's not a scientific objection.
    So, yeah, creationists who use computers, or vaccinate, or drive cars, or engineer submarine launched ballistic missile telemetry pod transmitters can still be very obviously anti-science.
    There's a difference between those that have their scientists, who were formerly educated in the West, and those (oddly enough) who live in the West, who choose to live outside the modern world like the Amish for example. ( I more-or-less agree with the part about conclusions)
    Luddites, those who reject technology, have been around since the 19th century.

    In the 60s it was the counterculture 'get back to the land' mantra.

    The Christian engines I worked with compartmentalized religion and science. Reject science backed evolution but would not design a bridge based on scripture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Learner View Post
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    The irony here it seems, is when you're looking from the view that on both religious and scientific terms, they seem to be quite extreme. It does look like science is accepted here.
    Nope. These are people who will make a distinction between Real Science and the science that leads places they do not want to go.
    They define the split not because they can find fault in the process or the peer review, just the conclusions. And that's not a scientific objection.
    So, yeah, creationists who use computers, or vaccinate, or drive cars, or engineer submarine launched ballistic missile telemetry pod transmitters can still be very obviously anti-science.
    There's a difference between those that have their scientists, who were formerly educated in the West, and those (oddly enough) who live in the West, who choose to live outside the modern world like the Amish for example. ( I more-or-less agree with the part about conclusions)
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
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    There's a difference between those that have their scientists, who were formerly educated in the West, and those (oddly enough) who live in the West, who choose to live outside the modern world like the Amish for example. ( I more-or-less agree with the part about conclusions)
    Luddites, those who reject technology, have been around since the 19th century.

    In the 60s it was the counterculture 'get back to the land' mantra.

    The Christian engines I worked with compartmentalized religion and science. Reject science backed evolution but would not design a bridge based on scripture.
    Lots of Amish in my neck of the woods. They do very inexpensive repairs on homes but you've got to watch them closely as they're not licensed contractors. They don't drive cars but they'll be driven in one. They use hammers, shingles, nails, all the things mass produced using electricity. They're very nice, generous people for the most part but their aversion to technology is lame.

    They don't directly use devices that are associated with their faith beliefs, but indirectly use all those products brought about by the very things they eschew. They benefit greatly as a result. To me it's fake. It's as if I said I do not believe in the use of lawn chemicals, but if someone else applies it to my lawn that's okay. Where's the honesty in that?

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    A christian may profess brotherhood of man yet act quite contrary to that sentiment when it comes to business, perhaps not even being aware of the compromises being made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins View Post
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    There's a difference between those that have their scientists, who were formerly educated in the West, and those (oddly enough) who live in the West, who choose to live outside the modern world like the Amish for example. ( I more-or-less agree with the part about conclusions)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Learner View Post
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    There's a difference between those that have their scientists, who were formerly educated in the West, and those (oddly enough) who live in the West, who choose to live outside the modern world like the Amish for example. ( I more-or-less agree with the part about conclusions)
    Today on The Turing Test.
    The Turing test has often been said to be too simplistic with devused limitations to produce results.
    exactly what a Turing failure would say. Except with spelling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post

    Luddites, those who reject technology, have been around since the 19th century.

    In the 60s it was the counterculture 'get back to the land' mantra.
    Good note. Happy to exchange Luddites for Amish to suit.

    The Christian engines I worked with compartmentalized religion and science.

    Reject science backed evolution but would not design a bridge based on scripture.
    I'm sure if a bridge was to be built and written in the scriptures they'd be measured in cubits.

    They are just scientists that are not yet conviced with certain aspects of evolution. (it happens among scientists)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Learner View Post
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    There's a difference between those that have their scientists, who were formerly educated in the West, and those (oddly enough) who live in the West, who choose to live outside the modern world like the Amish for example. ( I more-or-less agree with the part about conclusions)
    Today on The Turing Test.
    The Turing test has often been said to be too simplistic with devised limitations to produce results.
    Kind of like homeless bears.

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