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    Oh my fucking god! Not this old nonsense again. Do you know how mountains are formed? Do you know how scientists date rock formations? You keep embarrassing yourself every fucking time you post. I know 10 year old children who know more about the natural world than you do. Really!
    Whale bones.
    Did i miss your citation for your example?

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    Its always a faith-trust for me, what else is it as a believer? Take it as a " I know where you stand now" or taking into acoount. Shouldn't stop the discussion being mutually reasonable.
    I believe what you mean to say is that “You don’t know what you are talking about, but you have faith you are right.”
    Not quite. Faith i.e. trusting something is true, doesn't mean " knowing-nothing-at-all!" There is no commandment to say "thall shalt be stupid!!

    (Ok I can be at times but not always, I say with reasonable fairness)
    Trusting that something is true won't make it true. Faith is a conviction of truth held without the support of evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
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    Not quite. Faith i.e. trusting something is true, doesn't mean " knowing-nothing-at-all!" There is no commandment to say "thall shalt be stupid!!

    (Ok I can be at times but not always, I say with reasonable fairness)
    Trusting that something is true won't make it true. Faith is a conviction of truth held without the support of evidence.
    And, far too frequently, faith is conviction of the truth of a belief against overwhelming evidence and reason to the contrary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Learner View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Learner View Post

    Its always a faith-trust for me, what else is it as a believer? Take it as a " I know where you stand now" or taking into acoount. Shouldn't stop the discussion being mutually reasonable.
    I believe what you mean to say is that “You don’t know what you are talking about, but you have faith you are right.”
    Not quite. Faith i.e. trusting something is true, doesn't mean " knowing-nothing-at-all!" There is no commandment to say "thall shalt be stupid!!

    (Ok I can be at times but not always, I say with reasonable fairness)
    That isn’t correct. Faith, in the context you are speaking of, would be better known as arrogant pride. We aren’t talking about unknowns here. We are talking about sciences that are very well established.

    Your “faith” states you believe in something that isn’t generally accepted based on the observations of millions of scientists in a reproducible manner, because the book you follow suggests otherwise and you want that alternative to be true. They are all wrong, and you are right. That is arrogance. Christopher Columbus shared such arrogance, though got lucky with the presence of the New World.

    Quite arrogant. Do you know that the forefathers of almost all of our science tried to use their knowledge and observations to prove the Bible and its god? They couldn’t do it. But you think asking a question or a dozen of already explained poor understandings of science will finally break the dam of reproducible, rock solid scientific observation.

    That isn’t faith, that is arrogance.

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