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    Quote Originally Posted by T.G.G. Moogly View Post
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    And how do we determine exactly what is "junk science"?
    No peer review is a good start.
    .. and the source of funding.. it was right there in the OP... quite clear, actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheerful Charlie View Post
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    And how do we determine exactly what is "junk science"?

    Will that junk science proffered to the government withstand expert and objective peer review?
    for the love of....

    4 sentences in the OP... could't make it to the 4th?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Nut View Post
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    And how do we determine exactly what is "junk science"?

    Will that junk science proffered to the government withstand expert and objective peer review?
    for the love of....

    4 sentences in the OP... could't make it to the 4th?
    Of course they can't. It's kind of like Moscow Mitch refusing to watch impeachment hearings: if they DID read it they might have to admit that their political disagreements are based on ideology rather than logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trausti View Post
    Silly.
    Spoken like an actual victim of junk science.

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    There's junk on the public side of the line as well. I wonder if she also would take aim at that.

    For those who actually would like an example, the California Air Resources Board is one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheerful Charlie View Post
    I want to vote for Warren because she proposes common sense policies like this.
    But how do you implement it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbos View Post
    I support that but must add government funding is not without blame either. I have seen successful grant application taken straight from the cheap SciFi movie script - random word salad.
    OK. You have to document that statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheerful Charlie View Post
    I want to vote for Warren because she proposes common sense policies like this.
    But how do you implement it?
    Its convenient for companies to self publish 'research' since they can protect it from being explointed by other companies. Unfortunately they often publish opposition pieces under the same auspices as push back against actual science. The latter is the junk science of which Warren speaks It's quite simple to limit inclusion of that stuff refereed scientific journals. And it's nearly as simple to limit that material from being part of scientific review by regulating agencies in government. The problem arises when companies coopt recognized journals by buying off universities and agencies with grants and positions.

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    I'll believe this when she stops using junk science to promote her tax scheme.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by fromderinside View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by barbos View Post
    I support that but must add government funding is not without blame either. I have seen successful grant application taken straight from the cheap SciFi movie script - random word salad.
    OK. You have to document that statement.
    OK, google "All Electron Battery" which got $500K grant. Applications and all patents are complete nonsense.
    Of course they fooled not only the government but private sector as well when they started a company, but that's not taxpayers money.

    LOL I googled them and they scammed the government for $1,498,681 already.
    Last edited by barbos; 11-19-2019 at 08:02 AM.

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