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    Quote Originally Posted by Don2 (Don1 Revised) View Post
    Fox News is saying that the jury foreman posted something negative about Trump in social media and so the whole conviction should be thrown out.
    Well then... the jury foreman (McTurtle) said he'd never convict Trump, so that "acquittal" should be thrown out.

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    I recall Manafort having a fan on his jury.

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    40 months for Roger Stone. Pardon pending?

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    I bet he's going to be scared shitless in jail. He's got the prison police, Trump's mob connections, and THE BIKERS to fear. He's never going to talk...he'll end up being Epsteined most likely.

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    Any word on when he is supposed to report to the slam? I doubt he went directly to jail like most people do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiprHead View Post
    Any word on when he is supposed to report to the slam?
    Well, he's still asking for a new trial, right?

    Be funny if he gets a new trial, and a new judge/jury give him the maximum, 50 years, for the charges, when he could have had 40 months.

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    ‘Bulletproof from a pardon’: Fox News analyst says judge in Stone case just made things tough for Trump

    “[Jackson’s] trying to make this bulletproof from a pardon,” Napolitano said. “Because she went along exactly with what [Barr] requested.”

    “How could the government possibly object to this?” he continued. “She gave them exactly what they wanted, and it’s half of the number that had outraged the President.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiprHead View Post
    and it’s half of the number that had outraged the President.”
    No, no, "ANY" was the number that outraged the President.

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    LAW PROFESSOR SAYS THE CONSTITUTION PROHIBITS TRUMP FROM GIVING ROGER STONE A PARDON

    From the moment President Donald Trump’s longtime friend and protege Roger Stone was sentenced to 40 months in federal prison last week on charges ranging from obstruction to witness tampering, speculation began regarding when Trump would be issuing a pardon to Stone.

    But according to a noted law professor, the U.S. Constitution actually prohibits a pardon because the Founding Fathers anticipated such a scenario when they wrote the document that governs all of us as Americans.
    “Many scholars agree that once a president has been impeached, he or she loses the power to pardon anyone for criminal offenses connected to the articles of impeachment. Less noticed is that even after the Senate’s failure to convict the president, he or she does not regain this power.”

    “Under Article II, Section II of the Constitution, the president is given the ‘power to grant reprieves and pardons for offences against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.’ Pardons are supposed to be used as acts of mercy. The framers thought of the pardon power as a ‘benign prerogative’—prerogative because it was mostly unchecked by courts or Congress, but benign because presidents would use it for the public good.

    “But the framers knew not to place blind trust in the president to wield the power justly. That’s why they explicitly forbade a president from exercising the pardon power in ‘cases of impeachment.’ The clause prevents the worst abuse of the pardon power: a president’s protecting cronies who have been convicted of crimes related to the president’s own wrongdoing.”
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    We know how this ends up. Trump not only pardons Roger Stone, he gives him the Medal Of Freedom AND appoints him as the new ambassador to Russia. Judge in the trial forced to retire, and the individual jurers all deported to counties battling the coronavirus.

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