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    REPUBLICAN LED FLORIDA CITY TOPS NATION IN GUN VIOLENCE IN NEW STUDY

    https://www.lancastercourier.com/201...-gun-violence/

    For some time, gun rights activists have trashed the city of Chicago for trying to combat gun violence. They point to their often Democratic leaders in their critiques, saying that it is their liberal policies that brings on the violence.

    That argument might now be obsolete as a new city, Ocala, Florida now leads the nation in gun incidents. Not only is Florida a GOP led state, with Republican Ron DeSantis serving as the state’s Governor, but Ocala also has a four-term elected Republican mayor heading up the city’s local government.


    Beyond that, it is also worth noting that at least half of the top 10 cities in the above list are located in “red states.” That kind of diminishes the argument about Chicago and shows that gun violence can rear its ugly head in any state, any city, and anywhere in America as long as we do nothing to curb it.
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    It does seem strange. I looked up Ocala, Florida on Wikipedia and found the following:

    1. "Although a small majority of the city's registered voters are Democrats,[11] Ocala voters have elected many Republicans to office. In the 2008 presidential election, John McCain carried both the city and the county, the latter by a landslide, although Florida as a whole voted for Democrat Barack Obama by a narrow margin" John McCain was the biggest RINO there ever was. Most conservatives say you could have called him a democrat.

    2. Biggest employers of the community are all government institutions or medical services. No private industry to be found except for 981 people working for Lockheed. Those are really government jobs anyway because they are direct support for our government military complex. There really is no private industry at all except for Wall Mart. So most of the population is probably very very poor.

    The people might vote red but they are not acting like typical republicans or librarians for some reason. Furthermore, even if this really is a GOP run community with GOP values it is still the only one in your entire list having a GOP mayor. It is an unusual case for some reason. If you fall off of a 32 story building and happen to survive, does that mean you would survive the fall every time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RVonse View Post
    It does seem strange. I looked up Ocala, Florida on Wikipedia and found the following:

    1. "Although a small majority of the city's registered voters are Democrats,[11] Ocala voters have elected many Republicans to office. In the 2008 presidential election, John McCain carried both the city and the county, the latter by a landslide, although Florida as a whole voted for Democrat Barack Obama by a narrow margin" John McCain was the biggest RINO there ever was. Most conservatives say you could have called him a democrat.

    2. Biggest employers of the community are all government institutions or medical services. No private industry to be found except for 981 people working for Lockheed. Those are really government jobs anyway because they are direct support for our government military complex. There really is no private industry at all except for Wall Mart. So most of the population is probably very very poor.

    The people might vote red but they are not acting like typical republicans or librarians for some reason. Furthermore, even if this really is a GOP run community with GOP values it is still the only one in your entire list having a GOP mayor. It is an unusual case for some reason. If you fall off of a 32 story building and happen to survive, does that mean you would survive the fall every time?
    Maybe you just need to re-evaluate your preconception of "typical republicans or librarians.[sic]"

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    What is the definition of a gun incident used n the survey?
    How does that differ to death or injury?

    Was this the first time that Ocala has 'won' this survey?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigers! View Post
    What is the definition of a gun incident used n the survey?
    How does that differ to death or injury?

    Was this the first time that Ocala has 'won' this survey?
    All this and more can be learned by clicking the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tigers! View Post
    What is the definition of a gun incident used n the survey?
    How does that differ to death or injury?

    Was this the first time that Ocala has 'won' this survey?
    All this and more can be learned by clicking the link.

    Yes, "Clicking the Link" is no longer viewed negatively in society. It allows you to read more than just the post... it allows you to discover new truths and evidence by reading the source material!
    This is a confusing remark. How would doing this help in derailing the conversation away from facts which are uncomfortable for a person by their feigning ignorance about those facts?

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    Ocala not Florida City. The subject is misleading.
    Quote Originally Posted by ZiprHead View Post
    https://www.lancastercourier.com/201...-gun-violence/

    For some time, gun rights activists have trashed the city of Chicago for trying to combat gun violence. They point to their often Democratic leaders in their critiques, saying that it is their liberal policies that brings on the violence.

    That argument might now be obsolete as a new city, Ocala, Florida now leads the nation in gun incidents. Not only is Florida a GOP led state, with Republican Ron DeSantis serving as the state’s Governor, but Ocala also has a four-term elected Republican mayor heading up the city’s local government.


    Beyond that, it is also worth noting that at least half of the top 10 cities in the above list are located in “red states.” That kind of diminishes the argument about Chicago and shows that gun violence can rear its ugly head in any state, any city, and anywhere in America as long as we do nothing to curb it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tigers! View Post
    What is the definition of a gun incident used n the survey?
    How does that differ to death or injury?

    Was this the first time that Ocala has 'won' this survey?
    All this and more can be learned by clicking the link.

    Yes, "Clicking the Link" is no longer viewed negatively in society. It allows you to read more than just the post... it allows you to discover new truths and evidence by reading the source material!
    The article was very sparse on detail it seems.
    Lots of effort to trying to link the mayor to the KKK and some confederate history groups but precious little else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigers! View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tigers! View Post
    What is the definition of a gun incident used n the survey?
    How does that differ to death or injury?

    Was this the first time that Ocala has 'won' this survey?
    All this and more can be learned by clicking the link.

    Yes, "Clicking the Link" is no longer viewed negatively in society. It allows you to read more than just the post... it allows you to discover new truths and evidence by reading the source material!
    The article was very sparse on detail it seems.
    Lots of effort to trying to link the mayor to the KKK and some confederate history groups but precious little else.
    There was a link to the study in the link. Just one more click away from joyous enlightenment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigers! View Post
    What is the definition of a gun incident used n the survey?
    How does that differ to death or injury?

    Was this the first time that Ocala has 'won' this survey?
    Good question. Also, the graphic says "major cities" and yet Ocala has ~60k people. Hardly a major city. Was the study cherry picked to produce a result that ZiprHead was likely to post here in all caps?

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