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    Evangelicals' bad reputation

    Evangelicals Have an Awful Reputation with Non-Christians. They Earned It. | Hemant Mehta | Friendly Atheist | Patheos notes U.S. Adults See Evangelicals Through a Political Lens - Barna Group
    Hemant Mehta:
    Here’s what they found: Most evangelicals describe their people as “caring,” “hopeful,” “friendly,” “encouraging,” and “generous.” No surprises there.

    But the words that non-Christians used to describe evangelicals (at least moreso than any other group) include “narrow-minded,” “homophobic,” “puritanical,” “uptight,” and “invasive.”
    Non-evangelical Christians were in between - Catholics and mainline Protestants.
    Barna concludes that, while the reputation of Jesus ultimately matters more than the reputation of evangelicals, Christians who want to convert others will have a hard time doing so if everyone hates them. (No kidding.)
    From the Barna report,
    … will the public witness of evangelicals be a bridge or a barrier to the very thing they hold most dear: persuading others to put their faith in Christ? The findings strongly suggest that the perceptions of evangelicals are more barrier than bridge on the road to gaining a hearing for the gospel. As such, the results of this research require much soul searching among Christians to discern a way forward with the current ‘evangelical brand.’
    As if their problem is a public-relations one. But it isn't. HM again:
    We think they’re homophobic because they are homophobic. We think they’re narrow-minded because they prove it every damn day. “Puritanical”? Just look at the way they handle sex education, purity culture, and women’s rights.
    For a bunch of conservatives, they are very reluctant to take responsibility for their actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    For a bunch of conservatives, they are very reluctant to take responsibility for their actions.
    True.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dictionary
    e·van·ge·lism
    /əˈvanjəˌlizəm/
    noun
    noun: evangelism

    the spreading of the Christian gospel by public preaching or personal witness.
    zealous advocacy of a cause.
    Evangelism is bad. At least the public part. I don't like Jehovas witlesses showing up uninvited, and don't like anyone trying to cram their superstitions down other people's throats. Those are the activities of bad people. I don't mind private, one on one efforts to convince because 1) you don't have to tolerate it if you don't want, and 2) it is possible in those situations to actually have an exchange. But garden variety evangelicals have no interest in that, as they feel they are earning a pass to eternal bliss (IOW working on their own behalf) by berating people about shit they actually know nothing about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    Evangelicals Have an Awful Reputation with Non-Christians. They Earned It. | Hemant Mehta | Friendly Atheist | Patheos notes U.S. Adults See Evangelicals Through a Political Lens - Barna Group
    Hemant Mehta:

    Non-evangelical Christians were in between - Catholics and mainline Protestants.

    From the Barna report,
    … will the public witness of evangelicals be a bridge or a barrier to the very thing they hold most dear: persuading others to put their faith in Christ? The findings strongly suggest that the perceptions of evangelicals are more barrier than bridge on the road to gaining a hearing for the gospel. As such, the results of this research require much soul searching among Christians to discern a way forward with the current ‘evangelical brand.’
    As if their problem is a public-relations one. But it isn't. HM again:
    We think they’re homophobic because they are homophobic. We think they’re narrow-minded because they prove it every damn day. “Puritanical”? Just look at the way they handle sex education, purity culture, and women’s rights.
    For a bunch of conservatives, they are very reluctant to take responsibility for their actions.
    It's not just non-Christians... they are incompetent at building with bridges with anyone. Though their ideas have caught on in many wings of the church, alas. It's actually quite confusing to figure out just how many Evangelicals there are, as not everyone who is called an Evangelical calls themselves by that label, and not everyone who is called Evangelical is associated with the younger movement.

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    And they're TRUMPANZEES with the utmost respect and support for the most salacious man to ever sit in the O.O. I know a born-again who once landed a mild criticism of the DVD I gave to her family (Eye of the Needle with Donald Sutherland) by telling me, "I didn't appreciate the steamy scenes." (There's one shot of a bare breast in the film.) She now hews to the Trump line, ranting about 'fake' trials and 'Communists' trying to bring down the government. Most of all, her hero routinely calls his opponents scum of the earth, low IQ, dumb as a rock, sleepy-eyed son of a bitch, shit (or Schitt, in his 7th grade fashion.) And let's throw in the detention compounds for children. And the payoffs to porn stars. So, yeah, I never thought her religious views were true in any particular, but now her stance as a sanctified, saved human with a changed heart means, exactly what?

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    I've worked with and am friends with a couple evangelical types and they're decent folks with families and all that. Maybe the key to not demonizing anyone is to have contact with them and do things together, like being employed or enjoying public venues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.G.G. Moogly View Post
    I've worked with and am friends with a couple evangelical types and they're decent folks with families and all that. Maybe the key to not demonizing anyone is to have contact with them and do things together, like being employed or enjoying public venues.
    Evangelism is bad. I try not to demonize evangelicals, but do not restrain myself from criticizing their behavior. I hate Jehovah's Witnesses showing up uninvited, but am still friends with the excellent contractor who built my house 23 years ago.

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    There's a line from Mary Poppins...

    "Although we adore them individually,
    As a whole we think they're rather stupid."

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    James old chum, you may have stumbled upon a secret weapon for atheists. How can theists challenge atheists now, with the likes of Mary Poppins?

    Give up Christians... while you can!!

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    “Most evangelicals describe their people as “caring,” “hopeful,” “friendly,” “encouraging,” and “generous.” No surprises there.”

    They may be those things, but only to each other. They’d be happy if the rest of us were eaten by rats.

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