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    It is mystifying

    It is mystifying how the incoherent records of an ancient small ethnic group who numbers maybe 20 million today is the focus of so much attention and debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    It is mystifying how the incoherent records of an ancient small ethnic group who numbers maybe 20 million today is the focus of so much attention and debate.
    Most popular debates stem back to historical events that occurred when the world was much smaller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Politesse View Post
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    It is mystifying how the incoherent records of an ancient small ethnic group who numbers maybe 20 million today is the focus of so much attention and debate.
    Most popular debates stem back to historical events that occurred when the world was much smaller.
    They stem from endless spin and personal interpretation of scripture and 'what god wants'. Very little actually relates to anything explicitly stated. Aquinas trying to reconcile Greeks with Catholic theology. How many angels can fit on the head of a pin. The centuries of European theological debates. The multiplicity of sects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    It is mystifying how the incoherent records of an ancient small ethnic group who numbers maybe 20 million today is the focus of so much attention and debate.
    People like belonging to clubs that make them feel special. That is why fraternities and sororities thrive, why people cheer on "their" sports team, etc. How much more special could someone feel than being a member of "the only group that will be rewarded with heaven"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    It is mystifying how the incoherent records of an ancient small ethnic group who numbers maybe 20 million today is the focus of so much attention and debate.
    You shouldn't be surprised that other people's attention paid to writings which you find incoherent is a mystery to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    It is mystifying how the incoherent records of an ancient small ethnic group who numbers maybe 20 million today is the focus of so much attention and debate.
    Geography. An overwhelmingly resource rich region confers an enormous survival advantage on the organisms that populated and evolved there. It's location on the planet further multiplied that advantage enormously. So there really isn't any mystery involved.

    Humans also have this thing called emotions that works against all their rational inclinations. The mystery to me is that despite that glaring deficiency in our constitution we have managed to survive. When one considers all the squandered potential humans have brought upon and to continue to bring upon themselves and their environment the mystery only deepens. It's as if we're living in a nightmarish half-reality and cannot wake ourselves up.

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    I like that last sentence, Moog. It's like a similar thought that was posted an age ago, that talked about the weirdness of a humanity that invents a god to be afraid of offending.
    Other parts of the OP mystery: that the Christian community by and large doesn't even read the scripture that it takes to be the VERY WORDS OF AN ALL-POWERFUL DEITY...try to find a Christian you know who's read the entire Bible that he or she pretends to venerate. Or the complete dismissal by countless Xters of key teachings of the Son o' God, whose Word includes the injunctions to give absolutely anything away that is begged of you; to never try to get back stuff that is stolen from you (both of these are in Luke 6, in case you think it's too strange to be true); to accept physical assault without fighting back; to keep prayer private; to never swear an oath; to consider those who marry a divorced woman as an adulterer; to expect that whatever you ask in Jesus' name will be done for you. Christianity -- it's a cray-cray joint, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ideologyhunter View Post
    I like that last sentence, Moog. It's like a similar thought that was posted an age ago, that talked about the weirdness of a humanity that invents a god to be afraid of offending.
    Other parts of the OP mystery: that the Christian community by and large doesn't even read the scripture that it takes to be the VERY WORDS OF AN ALL-POWERFUL DEITY...try to find a Christian you know who's read the entire Bible that he or she pretends to venerate. Or the complete dismissal by countless Xters of key teachings of the Son o' God, whose Word includes the injunctions to give absolutely anything away that is begged of you; to never try to get back stuff that is stolen from you (both of these are in Luke 6, in case you think it's too strange to be true); to accept physical assault without fighting back; to keep prayer private; to never swear an oath; to consider those who marry a divorced woman as an adulterer; to expect that whatever you ask in Jesus' name will be done for you. Christianity -- it's a cray-cray joint, huh?
    And never to call anyone a "fool".

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    With the last line. I'm sorry to hear that, living in a nightmarish half-reality, all because Christians - above everything else out there (it seems you are saying) - are in your community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Learner View Post
    With the last line. I'm sorry to hear that, living in a nightmarish half-reality, all because Christians - above everything else out there (it seems you are saying) - are in your community.
    Biblical woo is just one example of the woo that affects us all. Biblical woo just had a geographical advantage.

    Think of a 1000 piece puzzle and one piece says "bible." But when the puzzle is complete it spells out "Woo." One nation, under Woo...

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