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Thread: Heart Breaking Video of Men Doing Ship-Breaking Jobs. What do the Feminists on this board think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly_Penguin View Post
    I am amazed that you can see videos like this and think gender rather than geography. Have you ever done a job like this, working in these sort of conditions? Come with me on my next trip to southeast asia and I'll hook you up. Philippines or Cambodia? Your choice. I have connections that'll land you a job like this in either.
    Of course I don't want to work this job. That's the point! Feminists don't want to do the job either. But, I am not the one complaining that "women can do anything men can do!" while never fighting to do jobs like these.
    Are women being blocked from doing this job? If not why would feminism be a factor? Also, whilst not exactly equivalent, but there is a push for more women in the coal mining industry. And I guarantee these women do more back breaking work than you will ever do in you lilly-white pussifed "I'm not smart enough to be an engineer so I'll do marketing instead" job.

    Allegedly, of course.

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    I must have missed the evidence that women were denied being hired due to their gender. Without that OP is an example of ideslogically driven poor reasoning,

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    You are asking why US women are not fighting to get work in Sri Lanka / India? I think India has laws about allowing foreigners to take work there... ironically. Male or female alike cannot just decide to move to India and work anywhere they want.

    What women were fighting for in the 1960's was the right to choose to work in jobs that were considered "men's work" without being discriminated against. This type of job inclusive. Just because they CAN does not mean that they SHOULD want to.. it's the principle of equality that is undermined by the idea that IF they wanted to do that job they would be "allowed" to.
    I don't want to be a nurse, or a secretary, or a typist, or a maid, or a waitress.. or any other job that historically was considered "women's work". It's not in my skillset or interest. But if I wanted to, I should not be discriminated against for choosing such a career.
    Women in India have bigger problems than achieving complete equality in all industries.. like.. getting any equality in anything might be a good start for them over there.
    Over here, women wanted to be "allowed" to succeed as doctors and lawyers and other things... being a ship-breaker was pretty far down the list and still is. Maybe coal miner would be a better comparison? How about the "mountain-mammas" of west virginia.. they tough enough to shipbreak for ya? https://www.100daysinappalachia.com/...west-virginia/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patooka View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly_Penguin View Post
    I am amazed that you can see videos like this and think gender rather than geography. Have you ever done a job like this, working in these sort of conditions? Come with me on my next trip to southeast asia and I'll hook you up. Philippines or Cambodia? Your choice. I have connections that'll land you a job like this in either.
    Of course I don't want to work this job. That's the point! Feminists don't want to do the job either. But, I am not the one complaining that "women can do anything men can do!" while never fighting to do jobs like these.
    Are women being blocked from doing this job? If not why would feminism be a factor? Also, whilst not exactly equivalent, but there is a push for more women in the coal mining industry. And I guarantee these women do more back breaking work than you will ever do in you lilly-white pussifed "I'm not smart enough to be an engineer so I'll do marketing instead" job.

    Allegedly, of course.
    Because when I see TV commercials like the new ad from Indeed.com which shows a woman being passed over for a promotion for VP of the company and the commercial implies she was passed over because she's a woman and not because she isn't qualified enough. Then "interview request" from another company shows up on her phone and she gets happy. Seeing commercials like this in America about the "struggle of women" while having knowledge of the conditions other people work in in other countries makes it seem like one big joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laughing dog View Post
    I must have missed the evidence that women were denied being hired due to their gender. Without that OP is an example of ideslogically driven poor reasoning,
    How many women did you see breaking the ship apart in the video I posted?

    I counted a big goose egg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Nut View Post
    You are asking why US women are not fighting to get work in Sri Lanka / India? I think India has laws about allowing foreigners to take work there... ironically. Male or female alike cannot just decide to move to India and work anywhere they want.

    What women were fighting for in the 1960's was the right to choose to work in jobs that were considered "men's work" without being discriminated against. This type of job inclusive. Just because they CAN does not mean that they SHOULD want to.. it's the principle of equality that is undermined by the idea that IF they wanted to do that job they would be "allowed" to.
    I don't want to be a nurse, or a secretary, or a typist, or a maid, or a waitress.. or any other job that historically was considered "women's work". It's not in my skillset or interest. But if I wanted to, I should not be discriminated against for choosing such a career.
    Women in India have bigger problems than achieving complete equality in all industries.. like.. getting any equality in anything might be a good start for them over there.
    Over here, women wanted to be "allowed" to succeed as doctors and lawyers and other things... being a ship-breaker was pretty far down the list and still is. Maybe coal miner would be a better comparison? How about the "mountain-mammas" of west virginia.. they tough enough to shipbreak for ya? https://www.100daysinappalachia.com/...west-virginia/
    I never said they can't do these jobs, just that they never seem to want to do the tough work. Those mountain mama's you posted are all well and good, but I guarantee they laugh at women complaining about the AC in their office buildings.

    White women in America are the most privileged group of people in the world, and they still want more.

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    Well, at least you've moved up from the YouTube comments section.

    Progress?

    I'll send you some magical brownies if you can link to one feminist that said:

    There's something deeply wrong with feminists saying that it's OK to leave the hard dirty jobs to the men while they only fight for the cushy air conditioned office jobs.
    When conservatives realize they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will abandon democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Patooka View Post

    Are women being blocked from doing this job? If not why would feminism be a factor? Also, whilst not exactly equivalent, but there is a push for more women in the coal mining industry. And I guarantee these women do more back breaking work than you will ever do in you lilly-white pussifed "I'm not smart enough to be an engineer so I'll do marketing instead" job.

    Allegedly, of course.
    Because when I see TV commercials like the new ad from Indeed.com which shows a woman being passed over for a promotion for VP of the company and the commercial implies she was passed over because she's a woman and not because she isn't qualified enough. Then "interview request" from another company shows up on her phone and she gets happy. Seeing commercials like this in America about the "struggle of women" while having knowledge of the conditions other people work in in other countries makes it seem like one big joke.
    Basically that means anyone in the USA with a job that is marginally better than sn awful one somewhere else in the world should be content. I wonder how you’d react if your employer gave that rational after cutting your compensation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by laughing dog View Post
    I must have missed the evidence that women were denied being hired due to their gender. Without that OP is an example of ideslogically driven poor reasoning,
    How many women did you see breaking the ship apart in the video I posted?

    I counted a big goose egg.
    Unless you can show women wanted those jobs but were denied them due to their gender, you’ve got nothing but rotten goose eggs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiprHead View Post
    Well, at least you've moved up from the YouTube comments section.

    Progress?

    I'll send you some magical brownies if you can link to one feminist that said:

    There's something deeply wrong with feminists saying that it's OK to leave the hard dirty jobs to the men while they only fight for the cushy air conditioned office jobs.
    Because the majority of them do not fight for those rights. They go to the women's march and wear stupid pink pussy hats instead.

    What I was pointing out is that male privilege has been dismantled. If it was only men who got the cushy office jobs and the women had the back breaking labor jobs that the majority of men do, then you can argue men are privileged. But, since the majority of back breaking labor jobs go to men, there is no such thing as male privilege. It's a fantasy concocted by feminists.

    Working for low pay in crappy conditions does not equal privilege. It's the complete opposite.

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