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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
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    Are women being blocked from doing this job? If not why would feminism be a factor? Also, whilst not exactly equivalent, but there is a push for more women in the coal mining industry. And I guarantee these women do more back breaking work than you will ever do in you lilly-white pussifed "I'm not smart enough to be an engineer so I'll do marketing instead" job.

    Allegedly, of course.
    Because when I see TV commercials like the new ad from Indeed.com which shows a woman being passed over for a promotion for VP of the company and the commercial implies she was passed over because she's a woman and not because she isn't qualified enough. Then "interview request" from another company shows up on her phone and she gets happy. Seeing commercials like this in America about the "struggle of women" while having knowledge of the conditions other people work in in other countries makes it seem like one big joke.
    You saw an ad, therefore feminism is "a scam that was never about equality." Totally makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
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    Well, at least you've moved up from the YouTube comments section.

    Progress?

    I'll send you some magical brownies if you can link to one feminist that said:

    There's something deeply wrong with feminists saying that it's OK to leave the hard dirty jobs to the men while they only fight for the cushy air conditioned office jobs.
    Because the majority of them do not fight for those rights. They go to the women's march and wear stupid pink pussy hats instead.

    What I was pointing out is that male privilege has been dismantled. If it was only men who got the cushy office jobs and the women had the back breaking labor jobs that the majority of men do, then you can argue men are privileged. But, since the majority of back breaking labor jobs go to men, there is no such thing as male privilege. It's a fantasy concocted by feminists.

    Working for low pay in crappy conditions does not equal privilege. It's the complete opposite.
    Link to one, just one. One teeny, tiny link to someone that said what I quoted you saying above. Stop moving the goalpost and creating strawmen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ZiprHead View Post
    Well, at least you've moved up from the YouTube comments section.

    Progress?

    I'll send you some magical brownies if you can link to one feminist that said:

    There's something deeply wrong with feminists saying that it's OK to leave the hard dirty jobs to the men while they only fight for the cushy air conditioned office jobs.
    Because the majority of them do not fight for those rights. They go to the women's march and wear stupid pink pussy hats instead.

    What I was pointing out is that male privilege has been dismantled. If it was only men who got the cushy office jobs and the women had the back breaking labor jobs that the majority of men do, then you can argue men are privileged. But, since the majority of back breaking labor jobs go to men, there is no such thing as male privilege. It's a fantasy concocted by feminists.

    Working for low pay in crappy conditions does not equal privilege. It's the complete opposite.
    Can you show that the pay in these bsck breaking jobs is less than or equal to the “cushy” jobs in the same area? I ask because women fought for back breaking jobs in construction and mining because they were higher paying than the cushy jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patooka View Post
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    Are women being blocked from doing this job? If not why would feminism be a factor? Also, whilst not exactly equivalent, but there is a push for more women in the coal mining industry. And I guarantee these women do more back breaking work than you will ever do in you lilly-white pussifed "I'm not smart enough to be an engineer so I'll do marketing instead" job.

    Allegedly, of course.
    Because when I see TV commercials like the new ad from Indeed.com which shows a woman being passed over for a promotion for VP of the company and the commercial implies she was passed over because she's a woman and not because she isn't qualified enough. Then "interview request" from another company shows up on her phone and she gets happy. Seeing commercials like this in America about the "struggle of women" while having knowledge of the conditions other people work in in other countries makes it seem like one big joke.
    You saw an ad, therefore feminism is "a scam that was never about equality." Totally makes sense.
    Yes, a lot of feminists want superiority over men, not equality. We can see this in pop culture everywhere. The stereotypical, "hah you can't go out tonight because your wife said so??! She's got your balls!!!" And men sit there and take it. Women have become known as "the boss" in today's modern family. It's known as the emasculation of men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
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    I am amazed that you can see videos like this and think gender rather than geography. Have you ever done a job like this, working in these sort of conditions? Come with me on my next trip to southeast asia and I'll hook you up. Philippines or Cambodia? Your choice. I have connections that'll land you a job like this in either.
    Of course I don't want to work this job. That's the point! Feminists don't want to do the job either. But, I am not the one complaining that "women can do anything men can do!" while never fighting to do jobs like these.
    I don't see you fighting to do jobs like these either. I don't see the double standard you speak of. Now, show us some men in your own country working tough jobs and you may have a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly_Penguin View Post

    I assure you, the women from the families these men are from are not sitting in offices complaining about the air conditioning being too much. Nor are they complaining about manspreading or mansplaining. I don't think you'd want to live the lives of the women who live in the location and at the economic status these men have. They very much DO need feminism. Not all feminism is the ridiculous stuff you see on buzzfeed or on this board.
    Why aren't the women there fighting to work alongside their husbands in the shipyard?
    Some of them are.

    One thing's for sure, there is no male privilege in Bangladesh.
    Think again. Male and female privilege are everywhere in pretty much every society. Life is especially bad for women in areas like Bangladesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    Because the majority of them do not fight for those rights. They go to the women's march and wear stupid pink pussy hats instead.
    If they started complaining about the economic conditions as demonstrated in the op, then you'd complain that they are all Marxists! They simply can't win against your male privilege to criticize them no matter what, can they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Patooka View Post

    You saw an ad, therefore feminism is "a scam that was never about equality." Totally makes sense.
    Yes, a lot of feminists want superiority over men, not equality. We can see this in pop culture everywhere. The stereotypical, "hah you can't go out tonight because your wife said so??! She's got your balls!!!" And men sit there and take it. Women have become known as "the boss" in today's modern family. It's known as the emasculation of men.
    I look forward to the day you discover anecdotes aren't facts. But if this is the hill you want to die on, go nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolly_Penguin View Post

    Some of them are.

    One thing's for sure, there is no male privilege in Bangladesh.
    Think again. Male and female privilege are everywhere in pretty much every society. Life is especially bad for women in areas like Bangladesh.
    I know it is bad for women in Bangladesh. But, feminists don't seem to care. Islamic countries treat women like rag dolls and feminists openly embrace Islam in the U.S.

    American feminists do not care about being consistent. If they were, they'd be condemning Islam the same way we conservatives do because of its barbaric treatment of women. But feminists spit on us and fight for Islamic rights in the U.S. This is why a lot of men have given up on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patooka View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
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    You saw an ad, therefore feminism is "a scam that was never about equality." Totally makes sense.
    Yes, a lot of feminists want superiority over men, not equality. We can see this in pop culture everywhere. The stereotypical, "hah you can't go out tonight because your wife said so??! She's got your balls!!!" And men sit there and take it. Women have become known as "the boss" in today's modern family. It's known as the emasculation of men.
    I look forward to the day you discover anecdotes aren't facts. But if this is the hill you want to die on, go nuts.
    It's in every sitcom, every family commercial, even real life. I've seen countless men say, "My wife said I can't hang out tonight" and men make fun of them asking where their balls are. Imagine if a man told his wife, "you're not going out tonight!" The woman would be like, "Stop trying to control me! I'm not your property! I have my own mind!" But for some reason, it's perfectly OK for them to treat men like their property.

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