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    Is it immoral to kill a snowboarder?

    I'm asking the question somewhat tongue-in-cheek! However, I was skiing yesterday with my kids when all of a sudden an out of control boarder ran over my youngest daughter. Great big kid who ran into my 100lbs daughter. I thought that he had knocked her out. As I'm tending to her, and yelling at that boarder, he started yelling back. Not a good idea to yell at an enraged father protecting his daughter with two sharp poles in his hand! Anyway, out of control skiers/boarders are a menace on the slopes. And boarders are the worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Bosch View Post
    I'm asking the question somewhat tongue-in-cheek! However, I was skiing yesterday with my kids when all of a sudden an out of control boarder ran over my youngest daughter. Great big kid who ran into my 100lbs daughter. I thought that he had knocked her out. As I'm tending to her, and yelling at that boarder, he started yelling back. Not a good idea to yell at an enraged father protecting his daughter with two sharp poles in his hand! Anyway, out of control skiers/boarders are a menace on the slopes. And boarders are the worst.
    What an ass. If I ever knocked down a child, I would be mortified and contrite.

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    Some people have the attitude that it is never their fault. It's always the other person to blame. Being absolutely pure and blameless, they cannot accept complaints, therefore you are the arsehole for complaining without reason.

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    The short answer is yes. The long answer is, it is immoral to kill a snowboarder in the situation you described.

    However, if the snowboarder impaled himself on your ski poles due to his own misadventure, no moral responsibility could be attached to you.

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    Is it immoral to wear earmuffs when going out looking for fun with friends on Saturday.

    65 years ago three friends and I went out after a snow. We found a piece of plywood, used it to ran down a motorcycle rut on Badger hill near Kennewick. We got up to probably 40 mph before the device with all four of us on it jumped out of the rut and crashed into some sagebrush. We came flying off landing respectively, one around another sagebrush, two of us on the snow one behind the other with legs around the one ahead as if we we were still on the board, and the last one over in the rut. Unfortunately the one in the rut was wearing ear muffs with a metal band. The band cut a clean 10 inch scalping flap.

    Since we were about almost three miles from the nearest house one of us ran ahead. I took of my coat and shirt, removed my tee to use as a bandage, then we replaced the flap back from whence it had been sliced. The three of us bagan walking. Things went well for about 10 minutes. Then the injured guy began to get shocky and collapsed. So we picked him up and began a slow two boy jog carry toward the house which took about 15 minutes. Fortunately emergency had already arrived when we got to that house. He was properly sutured together and returned to school after the weekend.

    Were we morally responsible for his injury, was he responsible for his injury, or was it just an unfortunate accident by kids having fun on a weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fromderinside View Post
    65 years ago three friends and I went out after a snow. We found a piece of plywood, used it to ran down a motorcycle rut on Badger hill near Kennewick. We got up to probably 40 mph before the device with all four of us on it jumped out of the rut and crashed into some sagebrush. We came flying off landing respectively, one around another sagebrush, two of us on the snow one behind the other with legs around the one ahead as if we we were still on the board, and the last one over in the rut. Unfortunately the one in the rut was wearing ear muffs with a metal band. The band cut a clean 10 inch scalping flap.

    Since we were about almost three miles from the nearest house one of us ran ahead. I took of my coat and shirt, removed my tee to use as a bandage, then we replaced the flap back from whence it had been sliced. The three of us bagan walking. Things went well for about 10 minutes. Then the injured guy began to get shocky and collapsed. So we picked him up and began a slow two boy jog carry toward the house which took about 15 minutes. Fortunately emergency had already arrived when we got to that house. He was properly sutured together and returned to school after the weekend.

    Were we morally responsible for his injury, was he responsible for his injury, or was it just an unfortunate accident by kids having fun on a weekend.
    I'm not sure. Sounds like an unfortunate accident. However, the rules on a ski mountain are crystal clear. If you strap razor blades on a heavy board to your fee on the slopes you are required to yield to the downhill skier. Always. No exceptions. You are required to know how to fall on your own if you are out of control. You are require to always be in control. If you break the rules and hurt someone, you might have a very angry papa bear with two very sharp sticks coming at you. Not a good idea!

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    oh. A touche one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronzeage View Post
    The short answer is yes. The long answer is, it is immoral to kill a snowboarder in the situation you described.

    However, if the snowboarder impaled himself on your ski poles due to his own misadventure, no moral responsibility could be attached to you.
    He ran into my ski poles.

    He ran into my ski poles 10 times!

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    Bent. Bent on suicide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fromderinside View Post
    Bent. Bent on suicide?
    I think that the problem is that some boarders don't understand how dangerous it is to ski too close or turn abruptly when they aren't in control. Little kids who are downhill just don't pay attention and they sometimes get run over. Sometimes I'll ski directly behind the kids and when I feel boarders coming from behind getting close, I'll stick out my skis to ward them off. They don't like that sometimes. I'm not trying to hurt anyone, but I'd rather an out of control boarder run into my pole first, rather than take out a 5-year old.

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