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    No. The full quote was...

    "I have a feeling that a lot of the numbers that are being said in some areas are just bigger than they’re going to be,” he said. “I don’t believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators. You go into major hospitals sometimes, and they’ll have two ventilators. And now, all of a sudden, they’re saying, ‘Can we order 30,000 ventilators?’”

    But, most Trump supporters will hem and haw and obfuscate, and throw red herrings around, and end up doing the dance of the ridiculous. It used to be mildly entertaining, but as many of us have said for some time, if this administration had to face a real challenge then may whatever god you believe in help us all. That time is here.

    We're past the point where the cult of Trump is costing us money, worldwide respect, and giving late night comedians jokes that write themselves. Now people are dying. Now Trump literally throws out many so many pieces of false info that many are clamoring not to broadcast the live Coronavirus broadcasts anymore and have the networks make a "hi-light reel" with only the factual information therein. Yes, Trump is already past the point of criminal negligence by far, and I'm morbidly curious to see how bad things get while Trump humpers continue to defend their cult, crying "Chinese virus" while bodies are literally being stacked in ice skating rinks because the morgues are full and loved ones never get the chance to tell their relatives goodbye.

    Also arguing with such people feels cathartic at first, but eventually the sick feeling you get is similar to what one would feel in arguing with a defender of a white power or Nazi movement, or a supporter of a awful dictator, I would imagine. It lowers your overall respect for humanity. Makes you feel like you need a shower after awhile. Fortunately, there are enough people that argue against the nonsense that at least some faith in humanity is maintained. That's been the hardest thing for me to accept honestly. How large a minority in America we have that are truly "deplorable" for lack of a better word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith&Co. View Post
    yeah, the thirty thousand is part of a worst-case estimate. we're in an epidemic that attacks the respiratory system. Thry want thousands of ventilators to save thousands of lives.
    Not only did Clownstick act like Como and other governors were out of place and exaggerating, he implied that they should only need a few more, with something like 'after all they only had 1 or 2 each before'.

    And within 24 hours the Dotard finally invoked the war powers authority, and ordered GM to start building ventilators while pissing at them. And the point halfie, is that FFvC should have been treating this seriously back in late January (2 months ago). The medical leaders knew what would be in short supply, but Clownstick was too busy watching Fox, strutting about...oh and yeah of course golfing:

    https://trumpgolfcount.com/displayoutings
    2/1/20
    2/2/20
    2/15/20
    3/7/20
    3/8/20
    But when Obama went on his non-stop golf trips, you guys didn't say a peep. You said there's nothing wrong with golfing.

    Do you believe golfing is a problem or not?
    LOL...you are always good for a diversion (REALITY: the point was about Clownstick being months late and billions short). Of course golfing is not a problem. Being president is a very stressful job, diversions like golfing is reasonable. Spouting lies and insulting past presidents w/o cause is an issue. Being a total hypocrite is an issue.

    FFvC: “I would rarely leave the White House because there’s so much work to be done"

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...-golf-n1121061
    The Trump Twitter Archive shows the Republican whining about his predecessor’s golfing over and over and over and over and oover again. The implication seemed to be that Americans should perceive Obama as lazy and easily distracted.
    Halfie, where were you went the alt-reality crowd was whining about Pres. Obama and his vacations?
    GWB took way more vacations that Obama.

    Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...tial_vacations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    Keith, if you want to know which candidates are anti-establishment,
    not the question i asked, is it?

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    Thanx to Angry Floof for finding this page: Watch Angela Merkel’s Coronavirus Speech - English Subtitles
    On YouTube:
    Kanzlerin Merkel Spricht zu BürgernInnen über das Corona Virus (Englische Untertitel) - YouTube

    Sounds much more Churchillian than anything Trump has ever said.

    Covid-19 is harshly testing our capacities as physicians and medical staffers - The Washington Post
    then
    🌹Shahid Buttar for Congress on Twitter: "A few signs of a failed system:
    “As of March 23, nearly half of the more than 500 survey respondents across 48 states said...they had no ability to test patients. Half also said they lacked personal protective equipment to keep staff and patients safe.” https://t.co/sKSiAs4P98" / Twitter


    Shiraz Maher on Twitter: "I've been debating about whether to 'go public' on having coronavirus - which I kind of did inadvertently this morning. So, now I may as well share my experience(s) with you in order to help those who are worried about it or who are thinking they might have it. Here goes... 1/" / Twitter
    (including severe coughing and breathing difficulty)
    then
    Lauren Ashcraft for NY-12🌹 on Twitter: "Honestly?
    How is anyone not furious with @realDonaldTrump? How? The guy sat on the knowledge of what this is for months, called it a hoax when it first was public, and is now playing games deciding which governors he likes enough to send enough ventilators to. https://t.co/KconOPeMie" / Twitter

    Lauren Ashcraft for NY-12🌹 on Twitter: "This is the experience of a young, healthy person struggling to breathe for multiple days. This experience was “mild.”
    Next I wanna highlight that anyone who thinks the federal relief bill is enough for anyone in this time of crisis needs to be replaced ASAP." / Twitter

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    “There seems to be a concerted effort on the part of Trump supporters to spread misinformation about the virus aggressively,” said Carl Bergstrom, a professor of biology at the University of Washington who has studied misinformation.

    Yes, we have our very own Half-Life persistently spreading lies, Half-Truths and misrepresentations about it right here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    ... by April we will be laughing going,
    "Remember how everyone panicked over the coronavirus
    because the media started fear mongering?"
    Effing conservotards are going to kill us all, unless they kill themselves first.
    Trump (COVFEFE-19) is a deadlier disease than any coronavirus.
    VOTE THEM OUT!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elixir View Post
    Effing conservotards are going to kill us all, unless they kill themselves first.
    Trump (COVFEFE-19) is a deadlier disease than any coronavirus.
    VOTE THEM OUT!!!
    Speaking of Covfefe-19

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    Quote Originally Posted by braces_for_impact View Post
    No. The full quote was...

    "I have a feeling that a lot of the numbers that are being said in some areas are just bigger than they’re going to be,” he said. “I don’t believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators. You go into major hospitals sometimes, and they’ll have two ventilators. And now, all of a sudden, they’re saying, ‘Can we order 30,000 ventilators?’”

    But, most Trump supporters will hem and haw and obfuscate, and throw red herrings around, and end up doing the dance of the ridiculous. It used to be mildly entertaining, but as many of us have said for some time, if this administration had to face a real challenge then may whatever god you believe in help us all. That time is here.

    We're past the point where the cult of Trump is costing us money, worldwide respect, and giving late night comedians jokes that write themselves. Now people are dying. Now Trump literally throws out many so many pieces of false info that many are clamoring not to broadcast the live Coronavirus broadcasts anymore and have the networks make a "hi-light reel" with only the factual information therein. Yes, Trump is already past the point of criminal negligence by far, and I'm morbidly curious to see how bad things get while Trump humpers continue to defend their cult, crying "Chinese virus" while bodies are literally being stacked in ice skating rinks because the morgues are full and loved ones never get the chance to tell their relatives goodbye.

    Also arguing with such people feels cathartic at first, but eventually the sick feeling you get is similar to what one would feel in arguing with a defender of a white power or Nazi movement, or a supporter of a awful dictator, I would imagine. It lowers your overall respect for humanity. Makes you feel like you need a shower after awhile. Fortunately, there are enough people that argue against the nonsense that at least some faith in humanity is maintained. That's been the hardest thing for me to accept honestly. How large a minority in America we have that are truly "deplorable" for lack of a better word.

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    This is literally the biggest reason for governments to exist and Trump supporters are applauding his failure every step of the way, mocking naysayers all the while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins View Post
    Arguably criminally negligent. He argued that hospitals usually have one ventilator. Therefore NY doesn’t need them.
    I was under the impression, but I could be hopelessly misinformed, that the Trump said NY doesn't need 30.000 ventilators.
    You are full with misimpression’s. I’d like to say it was accidental, but due to the saturation of them, it is hard to accept any explanation other than willful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by angelo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins View Post
    Arguably criminally negligent. He argued that hospitals usually have one ventilator. Therefore NY doesn’t need them.
    I was under the impression, but I could be hopelessly misinformed, that the Trump said NY doesn't need 30.000 ventilators.
    You are full with misimpression’s. I’d like to say it was accidental, but due to the saturation of them, it is hard to accept any explanation other than willful.
    Could just be another sad case of some fool believing what Trump says. There seems to be a lot of that going around.

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    Lawmakers already planning more coronavirus stimulus after $2T package | TheHill

    California governor: 170 ventilators sent from Trump administration were 'not working' | TheHill

    Pelosi on Trump's coronavirus response: 'As the President fiddles, people are dying' - CNNPolitics
    As US cases surge, Pelosi questioned when Trump was informed about the coronavirus and his knowledge on its potential impact. "I don't know what the scientists said to him, when did this President know about this, and what did he know? What did he know and when did he know it? That's for an after-action review. But as the President fiddles, people are dying. And we just have to take every precaution."

    Asked by Tapper if she believes Trump's downplaying of the crisis has cost American lives, Pelosi responded, "Yes, I am. I'm saying that."

    "Because when he made the other day when he was signing the bill, he said just think 20 days ago everything was great. No, everything wasn't great," she said. "We had nearly 500 cases and 17 deaths already. And in that 20 days because we weren't prepared, we now have 2,000 deaths and 100,000 cases."

    ...
    When asked about Trump suggesting he wants to relax social distancing guidelines in parts of the country, Pelosi said, "His delaying of getting equipment to where it -- it continues his delay in getting equipment to where it's needed, is deadly. And now I think the best thing would be to do is to prevent more loss of life rather than open things up, because we just don't know."
    • Chart: Coronavirus: Upward Trajectory or Flattened Curve? | Statista - the US is worse than the rest of the world, including Italy and China.

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