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    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    I may have seen this theory elsewhere, but here it is. Trump labeled the virus the "Chinese virus" as trolling, and that he did that to distract from his administration's failures with the virus.
    No, it's because It originated in China due to their unsanitary habits of eating any animal willy nilly.

    It doesn't mean that the Chinese literally created it to doom the world. If there was a virus that originated in America and other countries started calling it, "the american virus," that would be true. Nobody would be screaming at those other countries to stop their racism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    I may have seen this theory elsewhere, but here it is. Trump labeled the virus the "Chinese virus" as trolling, and that he did that to distract from his administration's failures with the virus.
    There is likely some truth to this. Trump is known to create deliberate distractions to change the narrative in the news cycle. However, he is also known for his racial and ethnic bigotry, a public record of which goes back to his father's treatment of minority residents in properties that he owned. He believes the same bigoted claim that they have unsanitary eating habits and eat anything willy nilly. I don't think that he does it just to create a distraction. He does it because he is genuinely bigoted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copernicus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    I may have seen this theory elsewhere, but here it is. Trump labeled the virus the "Chinese virus" as trolling, and that he did that to distract from his administration's failures with the virus.
    There is likely some truth to this. Trump is known to create deliberate distractions to change the narrative in the news cycle. However, he is also known for his racial and ethnic bigotry, a public record of which goes back to his father's treatment of minority residents in properties that he owned. He believes the same bigoted claim that they have unsanitary eating habits and eat anything willy nilly. I don't think that he does it just to create a distraction. He does it because he is genuinely bigoted.
    What you are doing would be the equivalent of someone calling Sputnik 1 a "Russian satellite" and then the media says, "You are racist against Russians!!!!!! How dare you call it a Russian satellite!!! It's just a satellite!!!!!"

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    Trump Shrugs Off Anti-Chinese Racism in the White House
    noting
    PBS NewsHour on Twitter: "WATCH: @Yamiche asked the president if using the term "Chinese virus" to describe novel coronavirus puts Asian Americans at risk of being targeted. President Trump: "No, not at all.
    I think they probably would agree with it 100%." https://t.co/BGHe10PFQ0" / Twitter

    and
    QuickTake by Bloomberg on Twitter: "“It did come from China, so I think it’s a very accurate term.”
    President Trump said he used the term "Chinese virus" because he didn't appreciate China saying the U.S. military gave the coronavirus to China https://t.co/oTDuYbw6Pq" / Twitter

    and
    Dake Kang 姜大翼 on Twitter: "Trump repeatedly and deliberately calling COVID-19 "Chinese virus" is enraging some of the most cosmopolitan, open-minded, America-friendly people from China I know.
    Words matter. If the U.S. keeps up the racial rhetoric, it risks alienating its few remaining friends in China. https://t.co/VZVz8XpCqn" / Twitter

    and
    Tucker Carlson on Twitter: "We must remain calm but not complacent about the Chinese Coronavirus. We addressed it on tonight’s show. We hope you’ll watch if you missed it. https://t.co/elhyObX1oV" / Twitter
    and
    Bobby Lewis on Twitter: "On Fox & Friends, Mike Pompeo and Pete Hegseth try to rebrand the coronavirus as "Wuhan virus." (h/t .@tylermonroe7) https://t.co/6FuCSxMHxt" / Twitter
    and
    Elizabeth Warren on Twitter: "I've said it once & I'll say it again loud enough for the @WhiteHouse, @FoxNews, & everyone else to hear: coronavirus does not discriminate. Bigotry against people of Asian descent is unacceptable, un-American, & harmful to our COVID-19 response efforts." / Twitter
    and
    Ted Lieu on Twitter: "Dear @realDonaldTrump: There’s a difference between saying a virus came from China versus calling it a Chinese virus. Asian Americans have already been assaulted because of this type of rhetoric. Can you please stop this unnecessary language? We all need to work together. https://t.co/9p9SE7xBGv" / Twitter
    noting
    Donald J. Trump on Twitter: "Cuomo wants “all states to be treated the same.” But all states aren’t the same. Some are being hit hard by the Chinese Virus, some are being hit practically not at all. New York is a very big “hotspot”, West Virginia has, thus far, zero cases. Andrew, keep politics out of it...." / Twitter

    Tammy Duckworth on Twitter: "With Asians experiencing increased racism b/c of #COVID19, it’s simply irresponsible&wrong for Trump to stoke fear by calling it the “Chinese Virus.” Pandemics don’t care about race, ethnicity or anything else. We must do better. Be kind, wash your hands & #StayHealthy." / Twitter
    and
    Acyn Torabi on Twitter: "Tom Cotton reiterates his suggestion that the Coronavirus originated at a super-lab in Wuhan https://t.co/i1cSNSqU0d" / Twitter

    The World Health Organization’s executive director for emergencies, Dr. Mike Ryan, was asked to comment on Wednesday about Trump’s language and the backlash from his implicit effort to blame China. “We’ve been very clear right since the beginning of this event that viruses know no borders and they don’t care your ethnicity or the color of your skin or how much money you have in the bank. So, it’s really important that we be careful in the language we use, lest it lead to profiling of individuals associated with the virus. This is just something we need to all avoid,” Ryan said. “It’s easy to make comments that are not intended to do that but ultimately end up having that outcome,” he added.
    He continued with how we don't call the 2009 flu the North American flu.

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    Wet Market Disease

    Now Vox's (partially owned by Comcast) youtube video (I linked earlier in thread) said it was likely from wet market that provided rich people with exotic animals for fodd and health tonics (ironic much).

    These motherfuckers were shut down in 2003 and opened back up again.

    All these animals were in close contact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    Trump Shrugs Off Anti-Chinese Racism in the White House
    noting
    PBS NewsHour on Twitter: "WATCH: @Yamiche asked the president if using the term "Chinese virus" to describe novel coronavirus puts Asian Americans at risk of being targeted. President Trump: "No, not at all.
    I think they probably would agree with it 100%." https://t.co/BGHe10PFQ0" / Twitter

    and
    QuickTake by Bloomberg on Twitter: "“It did come from China, so I think it’s a very accurate term.”
    President Trump said he used the term "Chinese virus" because he didn't appreciate China saying the U.S. military gave the coronavirus to China https://t.co/oTDuYbw6Pq" / Twitter

    and
    Dake Kang 姜大翼 on Twitter: "Trump repeatedly and deliberately calling COVID-19 "Chinese virus" is enraging some of the most cosmopolitan, open-minded, America-friendly people from China I know.
    Words matter. If the U.S. keeps up the racial rhetoric, it risks alienating its few remaining friends in China. https://t.co/VZVz8XpCqn" / Twitter

    and
    Tucker Carlson on Twitter: "We must remain calm but not complacent about the Chinese Coronavirus. We addressed it on tonight’s show. We hope you’ll watch if you missed it. https://t.co/elhyObX1oV" / Twitter
    and
    Bobby Lewis on Twitter: "On Fox & Friends, Mike Pompeo and Pete Hegseth try to rebrand the coronavirus as "Wuhan virus." (h/t .@tylermonroe7) https://t.co/6FuCSxMHxt" / Twitter
    and
    Elizabeth Warren on Twitter: "I've said it once & I'll say it again loud enough for the @WhiteHouse, @FoxNews, & everyone else to hear: coronavirus does not discriminate. Bigotry against people of Asian descent is unacceptable, un-American, & harmful to our COVID-19 response efforts." / Twitter
    and
    Ted Lieu on Twitter: "Dear @realDonaldTrump: There’s a difference between saying a virus came from China versus calling it a Chinese virus. Asian Americans have already been assaulted because of this type of rhetoric. Can you please stop this unnecessary language? We all need to work together. https://t.co/9p9SE7xBGv" / Twitter
    noting
    Donald J. Trump on Twitter: "Cuomo wants “all states to be treated the same.” But all states aren’t the same. Some are being hit hard by the Chinese Virus, some are being hit practically not at all. New York is a very big “hotspot”, West Virginia has, thus far, zero cases. Andrew, keep politics out of it...." / Twitter

    Tammy Duckworth on Twitter: "With Asians experiencing increased racism b/c of #COVID19, it’s simply irresponsible&wrong for Trump to stoke fear by calling it the “Chinese Virus.” Pandemics don’t care about race, ethnicity or anything else. We must do better. Be kind, wash your hands & #StayHealthy." / Twitter
    and
    Acyn Torabi on Twitter: "Tom Cotton reiterates his suggestion that the Coronavirus originated at a super-lab in Wuhan https://t.co/i1cSNSqU0d" / Twitter

    The World Health Organization’s executive director for emergencies, Dr. Mike Ryan, was asked to comment on Wednesday about Trump’s language and the backlash from his implicit effort to blame China. “We’ve been very clear right since the beginning of this event that viruses know no borders and they don’t care your ethnicity or the color of your skin or how much money you have in the bank. So, it’s really important that we be careful in the language we use, lest it lead to profiling of individuals associated with the virus. This is just something we need to all avoid,” Ryan said. “It’s easy to make comments that are not intended to do that but ultimately end up having that outcome,” he added.
    He continued with how we don't call the 2009 flu the North American flu.
    Yep, people are more concerned about whether or not the the term "Chinese virus" is waycist than they are with actually doing something productive to help.

    When even a virus name is becoming too PC to say, we know we have gone off the deep end in stupidity, sensitivity, and fragility.

    Yet, Chinese people can still call us "white devils" and "round eye" as racist insults and no one cares.

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    It's more that Trump is focusing on stupid shit like on insisting on calling it that rather than on trying to do anything useful.

    And Asians are being attacked in the street over this. He's a morally and criminally negligent disgrace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    In classical-era Greco-Roman society, people were much more open about same-sex sexual activity and relationships than later. They disapproved of a grown man being a "bottom" for another man, but that was about it.
    Yes, and when homosexuality became too widespread and accepted, the Empire fell. Same with Greece.

    Why do you think we try to warn you guys about the U.S.? Not acknowledging the failures of history is doomed to repeat it....
    Rome likely fell due to their lack of understanding of the hazard of lead.

    We live in a time where evil is good and good is evil, just like the Bible said would happen during the last days.
    If this is true we have a clear example: the evil in the White House.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel View Post
    Rome likely fell due to their lack of understanding of the hazard of lead.
    Yeah, I think of it often when I see quotes of that poster.

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