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    Quote Originally Posted by Jokodo View Post
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    Actually, the Chinese government did more or less exactly what you'd expect out of them. Denied it at first, then when it became serious implemented the sort of measures only a totalitarian regime can pull off...like completely shutting down a major city. Once they realized it was a real threat, they did a lot of things right. Draconian, but effective. Beijing used everything in their (genuinely frightening) toolkit to nip this in the bud, and as a result they've managed to make it past the worst.

    Trump did more or less exactly what China did at first. "Nope, nothing to see here. Everything will be fine. Move along." Yet when the guano impacted the air conditioner, the Trump administration kept up with the denial, downplaying, and disseminating misinformation. Deliberately. Then Trump patted himself on the back for "handling" the outbreak. Gave himself a 10 out of 10.

    As of a couple hours ago, the US is at 64,000 plus cases. A bit more than the zero Trump predicted at the beginning. In fact, we're currently ranking third behind Italy and China for the most confirmed cases. Or since the Summer Olympics have been postponed, we're on track for the bronze medal in the Covid 19 event.

    Yet Trump wants to reopen the country by Easter. He's going for the gold.
    We live in a free country. If Trump ends the lockdown, then all those who do not want to take a chance can remain at home. If you decide to go out and take a chance, that's your personal freedom of choice.
    Doing so at this point is actually like driving without brakes - while you are more likely to harm yourself than anyone else, collateral damage is likely enough to justify banning the practice not only for your good but every one else's too.

    Or driving drunk. Something I know a little about. Late 2016, I was involved in an accident caused by a drunk driver. This guy was traveling in his Cadillac pickup as only a "we live in a free country" person can. Ninety miles an hour in the commuter lane. When traffic slowed, he figured he could just drive on the shoulder. Being inebriated, he lost control, hit the wall, and bounced into the other lanes of traffic. As a result of him deciding to "go out and take a chance," he plowed into multiple vehicles. Physics (and unintended consequences) is a helluva thing. I wound up spinning around and flying off the freeway backwards, and landed in a row of bushes. The first car he hit exploded, and the fire jumped to his truck, which had turned completely around due to the force of impact. There was a total of 7 cars involved. Almost all of them (mine included) were totaled, and thanks to the gods of automotive engineering and some quick thinking bystanders, no one was killed. Eventually the guy who decided to "go out and take a chance" had his "personal freedom of choice" and his freedom in general taken away while he sat in prison for 9 months.

    But hey, we live in a free country, right?

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    Not looking great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSwizzle View Post
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    What I've been saying is that the Chinese government will likely reopen that market with the problem corrected.
    I understood and acknowledged that but you are determined to repeat yourself.
    OK, I'll spell it out for you, since your reading skills seem to be dysfunctional lately. If I said that the market would reopen with the problem corrected, that means I was saying that the market had a problem. Nobody has ever disputed that, but you decided to turn it into a straw man argument. I certainly never denied it had a problem. Hence, I could not "finally agree" with you, since I never disagreed in the first place. Again, you simply are not paying attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanie View Post
    Not looking great.
    Thank you for posting that. I was looking for it as I just saw it on MSNBC.
    When conservatives realize they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will abandon democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    We live in a free country. If Trump ends the lockdown, then all those who do not want to take a chance can remain at home. If you decide to go out and take a chance, that's your personal freedom of choice.
    Absolutely correct. However, when a pandemic occurs I'm inclined to defer to the wisdom of experienced medical personnel and not an egotistical man child who is so incompetent he couldn't even make money running a casino. You disagree and your actions put other people at risk. You appear to be fine with that, which is why I lack the vocabulary to properly articulate how comfortable I am living literally on the other side of the planet from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copernicus View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Copernicus View Post
    What I've been saying is that the Chinese government will likely reopen that market with the problem corrected.
    I understood and acknowledged that but you are determined to repeat yourself.
    OK, I'll spell it out for you, since your reading skills seem to be dysfunctional lately. If I said that the market would reopen with the problem corrected, that means I was saying that the market had a problem. Nobody has ever disputed that, but you decided to turn it into a straw man argument. I certainly never denied it had a problem. Hence, I could not "finally agree" with you, since I never disagreed in the first place. Again, you simply are not paying attention.
    Is there an echo in here ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koyaanisqatsi View Post
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    The Chinese government are culpable for this mess
    So is Trump, only more so since at least the Chinese government acted to contain it, whereas Trump is actively trying to spread it.

    This is the Trump virus from now on, no way around it.
    Yeah, it's not like the Chi-Coms would lie.


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    Orange man bad.




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    This seems to be the real issue. Discussing the Chinese origin of the virus takes away from how horrible White people are. Stay Woke, my friends.


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    Look, we got graphics too.


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