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    After mocking Trump for promoting hydroxychloroquine, journalists acknowledge it might treat coronavirus

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aft...at-coronavirus

    "After repeatedly mocking President Trump for suggesting on March 19 that hydroxychloroquine could be an effective treatment for coronavirus, media organizations have begun acknowledging that the drug -- now approved for emergency use to treat coronavirus by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) -- may be useful after all."

    Man, the media just automatically hates whatever Trump suggests. This is getting sick.

    Politics over people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Life View Post
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aft...at-coronavirus

    "After repeatedly mocking President Trump for suggesting on March 19 that hydroxychloroquine could be an effective treatment for coronavirus, media organizations have begun acknowledging that the drug -- now approved for emergency use to treat coronavirus by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) -- may be useful after all."

    Man, the media just automatically hates whatever Trump suggests. This is getting sick.

    Politics over people.
    But Trump did not offer a mefical opinion. In fact, he argued with the expert who was on stage with him, suggesting caution.

    Trump's promotion killed some people trying yo self-administer the stuff, and caused hoarding of a drug with actual, tested applications for people with Lupus. So now THEY can't get the drugs THE Y need because Bonespurs needs to be the hero, even if it requires talking oit his uninformed ass.

    Do not try to present this as The Shitgibbon being validated.

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    Accordingbto The Lancet, 3 days ago:
    The US Food and Drug Administration has designated hydroxychloroquine for off-label, compassionate use for treating COVID-19, and WHO added the drug to its large global SOLIDARITY trial to test a variety of potential treatments. But virologists and infectious disease experts caution that the excitement is premature.
    “Whether hydroxychloroquine works in vivo is not proven for any virus, and in fact in randomised controlled trials against a number of viruses, including influenza, it doesn't work at all,” says Douglas Richman, a virologist and infectious disease physician at the University of California, San Diego. “It's my personal prejudice that this is also going to be the case with coronavirus.”
    So, hold the applause.

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    Way to rewrite history. Journalists were never skeptical about hydroxychloroquine. They were hugely skeptical about Trump's claim when the people doing the research said it was way to early to determine one way or the other. And guess what? Trump is still talking out of his arse:

    Coronavirus: Dr. Anthony Fauci warns Americans shouldn’t assume hydroxychloroquine is a ‘knockout drug’

    Americans shouldn’t assume hydroxychloroquine is a “knockout drug” in preventing or treating COVID-19, White House health advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci warned Friday.

    “We still need to do the definitive studies to determine whether any intervention, not just this one, is truly safe and effective,” Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said on Fox News. “But when you don’t have that information, it’s understandable why people might want to take something anyway even with the slightest hint of being effective.”
    When I need advice about the decking in my backyard, I call a carpenter. If my toilet is broken, I call a plumber. In the event of a pandemic, I am more inclined to listen to a world respected immunologist instead of a dumb as shit insecure tangerine narcissist.

    And if you want to talk about which media outlet has spread the most misinformation about this pandemic, well just take a fucking guess.

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    And, in The Conversation, https://theconversation.com/a-small-...navirus-135484

    However, a study just published in a French medical journal provides new evidence that hydroxychloroquine does not appear to help the immune system clear the coronavirus from the body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith&Co. View Post
    But Trump did not offer a mefical opinion. In fact, he argued with the expert who was on stage with him, suggesting caution.
    Caution is of course appropriate. But some here have argued that hydroxychloroquine is no better than "eye of newt" just because Trump mentioned it.

    Trump's promotion killed some people trying yo self-administer the stuff,
    Him mentioning a treatment option is not responsible for some dumdums taking aquarium cleaner.

    and caused hoarding of a drug with actual, tested applications for people with Lupus.
    Neither has he told people to hoard it.

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    Hydroxychloroquine is the miracle cure of this pandemic.

    Every pandemic (real or fictional) has one; It's distinguishing features are that it's cheap, readily available, widely promoted (often by celebrities and/or politicians), and completely ineffective.

    You might as well try eye of newt. (And that's true regardless of who is promoting it).

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    So where is the quote that the "media" should be embarrassed about? Really, Half-Life, where is the gotcha?

    All the quotes in the article you linked are saying that the drug doesn't have enough evidence and it is reckless to promote unproven solutions. All of that criticism is still valid. And when I say "still valid," I mean that it is STILL correct that there isn't enough evidence to start promoting Hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for Covid-19. The "small study" that says the drug may be helpful is not a clinical trial. Those have only just begun. It's usefulness at this point is still anecdotal. Which makes Trump promoting it, weeks ago through to today, still reckless.

    The absence of critical thinking skills in the typical consumer of fox news is just SO depressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derec View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Keith&Co. View Post
    Trump's promotion killed some people trying yo self-administer the stuff, and caused hoarding of a drug with actual, tested applications for people with Lupus. So now THEY can't get the drugs THE Y need because Bonespurs needs to be the hero, even if it requires talking oit his uninformed ass.
    Him mentioning a treatment option is not responsible for some dumdums taking aquarium cleaner.
    Sure he is. While people may be considered competent to make decisions regarding daily life, they are not necessarily considered competent to make their own medical decisions. Encouragement in time of great anxiety from who some consider to be ( I struggle to write) a source of sound advice does draw a level of responsibility.
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