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    How to change the mind of the wingnuts
    Wingnuts, right, left, or just weird, are beyond reasoning so discussion will not change their mind. Anything said that does not mesh with their fixed mindset will just be ignored. Note; if someone thinks of anyone who disagrees with them is a wingnut then that is an indication that they are the one who is the wingnut.

    However, those who simply hold differing opinions can change through reasoned discussion, including the one trying to 'teach the other correct thoughts'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhea View Post
    There ARE ways to get a real discussion to happen, and to engage people in ways to actually "do the research", but they may not be easy.
    Human history is not one of democracy. It's a history of monarchy and suppression, war and violence. Democracy and reasoned objectives wherein people see other persons and groups as equals isn't our legacy. We don't share common goals. Rather we're fearful to the point of aggression, just like most dogs.

    We're no more rational with one another than our canine brethren are with their canine brethren. We like to dominate and exploit the weak and only tolerate them if it serves our selfish purposes. If we can get an advantage on someone we take it because that's how we evolved to this point. We like to think we're GORT but GORT wasn't selfish and delusional, just a fictional machine that was about its program.

    Human groups need common goals, and sometimes the common goal is nothing more noble than a common enemy or a common threat, not terribly proactive behavior for the allegedly most intelligent species on the planet.

    I wish it were different but I think that's a fair reading of where we are.

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    I believed the term for the left is Moonbat.

    The question is more general. How does culture evolve? The idea that centuries of human cultural inertia is goung to e magicaly changed in a short time is fanciful.

    Demonizing one side only reinforces beliefs.

    In a recent commercial I watched there was a racial mix of people presented I a positive light. In the long run that is what will bring about change.

    It is a marketing problem.

    Today there is media witch hunt that is ferreting out all and any speech and behavior of the right that can possibly be made to seem racial and biased. That only reinforces the right's belief that the left is out to get them personally and denying them liberty.

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    The real left is about rationality combined with natural human empathy.

    Anybody who isn't a crazed right winger is thought of as being on the left but the left is not just about caring whether you are rational or not.

    The right today in the US is mostly about narcissism and a lack of natural empathy.

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    You probably need something along the lines of a railgun or Thor system to crack their thick skulls.

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