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    If You Are Certain God Exists Why Prove It?

    If you truly believe why do you need a proof?

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    I think it's the atheists who are asking for proof etc.

    I cant find any scriptural invocation that compels me to prove God exists to the satisfaction of empiricists, presuppositional atheists and methodological skeptics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion IRC View Post
    I think it's the atheists who are asking for proof etc.

    I cant find any scriptural invocation that compels me to prove God exists to the satisfaction of empiricists, presuppositional atheists and methodological skeptics.
    Then why are you even responding?

    I can't speak for all atheist's. I think atheists are generally reacting to not the Christian belief in god, but what Christians presume they should and can do in the name of the belief.

    Abortion and homosexuality. Labeling non believers as fundamentally evil. Enacting beliefs into law.

    I have never met an evangelical proselytizing Jew or Muslim in this country. They are generally content to dwell withing their faith.

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    The nature of faith means that you don't need evidence to support your conviction, that don't need to prove your belief. You just believe.

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    Hasn't this thread or its contents been done before by you Steve?
    NOTE: No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    If you truly believe why do you need a proof?
    The Protestant faith is based on the idea that having belief is in-and-of-itself the proof. They believe that faith comes from God alone. Seeking proof is sacrilege. Unfortunately this notion is easily transferred to the realm of politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigers! View Post
    Hasn't this thread or its contents been done before by you Steve?
    Absolutely. And he still doesn't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lion IRC View Post
    I think it's the atheists who are asking for proof etc.

    I cant find any scriptural invocation that compels me to prove God exists to the satisfaction of empiricists, presuppositional atheists and methodological skeptics.
    Then why are you even responding?...
    You just proved my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion IRC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lion IRC View Post
    I think it's the atheists who are asking for proof etc.

    I cant find any scriptural invocation that compels me to prove God exists to the satisfaction of empiricists, presuppositional atheists and methodological skeptics.
    Then why are you even responding?...
    You just proved my point.
    Feels good to be on the righteous side of a god putting done those non believing atheists, does it not?

    As usual the theist ignores the obvious point. Christianity for thousands of years has sought to impose itself on the world. Carbolics invented a logically consistent theology none bible based.

    Back to the OP. Years back there was a steady stream of Christians out to debunk science and evolution, and put forth proofs god exists.

    It feels good to do righteous bustle for a god.

    'Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the lord...he is wiping out evil with a great shining sword..' or something like that. The Battle Hymn Of The Republic.

    You try to turn the table back on atheists to avoid the questions, par for the course.

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    Needing or voicing a proof implies doubt.

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