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    You - Hey, Lion IRC Why do you think God is real?
    Me - because.....
    You - AHA! gotcha. You must have doubts otherwise you wouldnt [answer my question]

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    Needing or voicing a proof implies doubt.
    Since you can't provide any reason why that is true then we can dismiss you .
    Checkmate.
    Last edited by Angry Floof; 07-06-2020 at 06:33 PM. Reason: TOU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion IRC View Post
    You - Hey, Lion IRC Why do you think God is real?
    Me - because.....
    You - AHA! gotcha. You must have doubts otherwise you wouldnt [answer my question]
    Now you are staring to get it. You are indeed 'got'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by remez View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    Needing or voicing a proof implies doubt.
    Since you can't provide any reason why that is true then we can dismiss you.
    Checkmate.
    And as you post nothing but subjective feelings about faith based on ancient disjointed writings of unknome authorship I remain atheist.

    You paint yourself into a corner.

    If god exists why mu

    Keep in my us atheists have northing to prove. We do not need to disprove god, what we do is respond to claims of the supernatural.You are arguing an imaginary thing, it is all in your head. What you believe means absolutely nothing to me.

    Imagine an adult with his hand on the head of a little kid who is swinging wildly trying to hit the adult.
    Last edited by Angry Floof; 07-06-2020 at 06:33 PM. Reason: consistency

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    Quote Originally Posted by remez View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    Needing or voicing a proof implies doubt.
    Since you can't provide any reason why that is true then we can dismiss you.
    Checkmate.
    People can be wrong. Being wrong doesn't make someone a fool. Religion is a powerful presence/meme. Its not something that can just be dropped.
    Last edited by Angry Floof; 07-06-2020 at 06:34 PM. Reason: consistency

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    If you truly believe why do you need a proof?

    If the believer's position is that she believes for no reason, irrationally, and that anyone who agrees with her is equally irrational, then she doesn't need proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiploc View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    If you truly believe why do you need a proof?

    If the believer's position is that she believes for no reason, irrationally, and that anyone who agrees with her is equally irrational, then she doesn't need proof.
    Yes, well said I listened to an NPR show on the placebo effect. The scope was staggering. Some people given a placebo feel better. Even when they are told it was a placebo they still need the pill to feel god.

    It goes back to Mesmer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    Some people given a placebo feel better.
    Read a book; title was something like Thirteen Things That Don't Make Sense.

    The chapter on placebos had a story something like this:

    We divide our subjects into two groups. Group A gets Acetaminophen, and it helps their headaches. Group D gets a Different drug, and it helps their headaches just as much.

    Time passes, and, at some point, placebos are substituted for the acetaminophen and the different drug. The placebos work just as well as the real drugs.

    More time passes, and a new switch is made. Both groups get a drug which would prevent Acetaminophen from working, if they were taking acetaminophen. This new drug continues to work as an effective placebo for the people in group D, but the people in group A get their headaches back full force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBT View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    Needing or voicing a proof implies doubt.
    Since you can't provide any reason why that is true then we can dismiss you as a fool.
    Checkmate.
    People can be wrong. Being wrong doesn't make someone a fool. Religion is a powerful presence/meme. Its not something that can just be dropped.
    People like labels. Labels give them control. I think "god" is a label that works like that for lots of people. They apply it to their experiences so that they can claim to understand what doesn't make any sense otherwise. They don't know what's really in the bottle but if they put "god" on the bottle maybe it makes them feel like whatever is inside is something they understand.

    Most of the people who use this label in my experience don't really care about proof because the proof is in how they feel, not what they know. It's all about being in communion with the great woo, and there will never be any proof for the woo because the woo is beyond proof.

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    I see the coffee table being offered here on this science thread. Maybe it would be good to have read Totem and Taboo as well.*

    *not science

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