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    Multiple "personalities" and split-brain experiments, etc

    By multiple personalities I mean having different "minds"... like Freud and id, ego and superego... or the different cognitive functions in MBTI.

    I found some information here - I assume it is accurate:
    though he calls them "conscious agents" and they aren't necessarily self-aware
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmieNQH7Q4w
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    There's a different personality in the left hemisphere than the right hemisphere one. In one case the left hemisphere believed in God the right hemisphere was an atheist. The left hemisphere wanted to be have a desk job the right hemisphere wanted to be a race car driver and they can even fight. The left hemisphere controls the right hand the right hemisphere controls the left hand and the they can fight. The left hand can be fighting what the right hand is doing. You know trying to cook the left hand might destroy an omelet that you're making. You try to put on some clothes - the left hand might be taking off the clothes the right hand is trying to put on
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    they would they were able um to get these split brain patients to have to play 20 questions with each other with themselves you the right hemisphere has a word in mind the left hemisphere doesn't know what it is and then the left hemisphere which can talk can start asking questions is it uh animal is it vegetable is it mineral things like that and the right hemisphere which can't talk but can understand language can use say the left hand to thumbs up for yes thumbs down for no and so these a split brain patient has two separate spheres of consciousness so separate that they can play 20 questions and the left hemisphere doesn't know the answer right the left hemisphere does not know and sometimes will fail to guess in 20 questions what's in the mind of the...
    I think "Being John Malkovich" is revelant. It involves old people going into a mind for their afterlife. They would be able to sometimes affect that mind. Then one of the characters goes into the mind but can not interact with the person at all...

    I wonder if those concepts in "Being John Malkovich" are based on any old or ancient ideas?

    BTW sometimes I have a self-gratifying personality and my self-disciplined personality fights with it - like when I think that I "should" get out of bed. The struggle is quite intense even though it only lasts a couple seconds. If I had got into a habit then the association with the self-disciplined personality would strengthen.

    Perhaps Christianity also is relevant... I think there is something about the sinful self and there could be a new self, etc.

    BTW in 2019 I was admitted into a mental ward. I believed that both sides of me were verbal.... and I stopped having dreams (which would normally be partly non-verbal). Note I have absolutely no visual imagination and my dreams were ghostly and have never been colour. I remained delusional so they gave me 6(?) lots of ECT. I used to program PHP for 30 hours a week. After hospital I couldn't even handle 8 hours a week.... I think my working memory for programming got a lot worse (I couldn't handle the programming complexity). I think ECT killed off a personality... also in hospital I started coming up with new ideas, etc. (I'm also starting to make more typos and sometimes my visual awareness gets really bad) Though before hospital I'd never had any visual imagination - not even a "ghost" image. But after hospital I would occasionally hallucinate - sometimes in colour...

    Then there are "voices" which schizophrenic people hear... I'm not sure where their irrational speech would come from.... it would be interesting to research that - whether the voices could somehow make sense in some way?

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    From there I went on to be a successful neurosensory psychophysiology and human factors professional. A little late. Didn't finish postdoc at CalTech, two floors below Sperry's lab, until I was 38. Probably would have been neuropharmacological sensory psychophysiologist if I hadn't revealed I'd been in hospital in interview for position At Norwalk State Hospital just before finishing my postdoc. Hospitalized when I was in my 20s. You don't have to tell such as that yano.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fromderinside View Post
    From there I went on to be a successful neurosensory psychophysiology and human factors professional. A little late. Didn't finish postdoc at CalTech, two floors below Sperry's lab, until I was 38. Probably would have been neuropharmacological sensory psychophysiologist if I hadn't revealed I'd been in hospital in interview for position At Norwalk State Hospital just before finishing my postdoc. Hospitalized when I was in my 20s. You don't have to tell such as that yano.
    Do you think materialism/physicalism can explain qualia? (I thought that sounded related to your specialization)

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    Quote Originally Posted by excreationist View Post

    Do you think materialism/physicalism can explain qualia? (I thought that sounded related to your specialization)
    Yes. I'm confident it will when all the operations are resolved.

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    I wish some people I have worked with had multiple personalities because the one they show at work is no good.
    NOTE: No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigers! View Post
    I wish some people I have worked with had multiple personalities because the one they show at work is no good.
    From what I've read pretty much everyone has at least two sides.... though they can work together.... and one side can be more dominant than the other.... e.g. this morning I ended up getting up at 8am but it was a quite difficult fight with myself. I kept on being tempted to go back to bed.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ego_depletion
    Ego depletion refers to the idea that self-control or willpower draws upon a limited pool of mental resources that can be used up (with the word "ego" used in the psychoanalytic sense rather than the colloquial sense)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-control
    ...Individuals with low self-control tend to be impulsive, insensitive towards others, risk takers, short-sighted, and nonverbal....
    The term literally involves "control" of part of the self....

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    FDI's definition of evil one: A person drawn to psychology out of feelings of inadequacy who gloms on to methods introduced by Pearson from USC between thirties through sixties to explain the world. 'r' U listening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fromderinside View Post
    FDI's definition of evil one: A person drawn to psychology out of feelings of inadequacy who gloms on to methods introduced by Pearson from USC between thirties through sixties to explain the world. 'r' U listening?
    Sorry I'm not sure what you're saying... are you talking about me?

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    No. That's not permitted. I'm just saying my views on multivariate analysis go beyond association to determination. Consequently I'm very suspicious of anything, any tool set, manipulating data short of determination goals. Associations are really nothing more than hearsay.

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