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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiprHead View Post
    Hospital staff must swear off Tylenol, Tums to get religious vaccine exemption
    Hospital CEO aims to educate staff on the full scope of what they're claiming.


    A hospital system in Arkansas is making it a bit more difficult for staff to receive a religious exemption from its COVID-19 vaccine mandate. The hospital is now requiring staff to also swear off extremely common medicines, such as Tylenol, Tums, and even Preparation H, to get the exemption.

    The move was prompted when Conway Regional Health System noted an unusual uptick in vaccine exemption requests that cited the use of fetal cell lines in the development and testing of the vaccines.

    "This was significantly disproportionate to what we've seen with the influenza vaccine," Matt Troup, president and CEO of Conway Regional Health System, told Becker's Hospital Review in an interview Wednesday.

    "Thus," Troup went on, "we provided a religious attestation form for those individuals requesting a religious exemption," he said. The form includes a list of 30 commonly used medicines that "fall into the same category as the COVID-19 vaccine in their use of fetal cell lines," Conway Regional said.

    The list includes Tylenol, Pepto Bismol, aspirin, Tums, Lipitor, Senokot, Motrin, ibuprofen, Maalox, Ex-Lax, Benadryl, Sudafed, albuterol, Preparation H, MMR vaccine, Claritin, Zoloft, Prilosec OTC, and azithromycin.

    Conway Regional notes that the list includes commonly used and available drugs but that it is not an all-inclusive list of such medicines.
    Good on the person who thought this up. Of course the antivaxers will break their promises but maybe one or two will turn their brains on.

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    Battle of Wits 2021 https://imgur.com/gallery/DeEVPJX

    Princess Bride, battle of intellects over vaccine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don2 (Don1 Revised) View Post
    It's real according to Fox News. It looks photoshopped around mask when zooming in. There's a hint of collar on neck where leash is going. Fox News says it's real. There are photos.

    Cats are wearing coronavirus masks in China



    Here's a related study:
    The severe acute respiratory syndrome–coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) pandemic may have originated in bats, but how it made its way into humans is unknown. Because of its zoonotic origins, SARS-CoV-2 is unlikely to exclusively infect humans, so it would be valuable to have an animal model for drug and vaccine development. Shi et al. tested ferrets, as well as livestock and companion animals of humans, for their susceptibility to SARS-CoV-2 (see the Perspective by Lakdawala and Menachery). The authors found that SARS-CoV-2 infects the upper respiratory tracts of ferrets but is poorly transmissible between individuals. In cats, the virus replicated in the nose and throat and caused inflammatory pathology deeper in the respiratory tract, and airborne transmission did occur between pairs of cats. Dogs appeared not to support viral replication well and had low susceptibility to the virus, and pigs, chickens, and ducks were not susceptible to SARS-CoV-2.
    https://www.science.org/doi/full/10....cience.abb7015
    Big cats can get it so presumably small cats can also.

    I still question the mask bit. I have never seen a cat on a leash in China.

    At least some of those other photos look much more possible, although I still think a cat would remove them promptly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomC View Post
    I think it's also important to point out that China doesn't have the problems with simple measures like masks we do here. Especially in winter 2020, Chinese people were being extremely cautious because it's the sensible thing to do. (Notice you don't hear reports of massive hospital overload from China).
    But also, that long ago, C19 was still very poorly understood. It had clearly jumped the species barrier at least once. Nobody had done much research on it's ability to infect cats.
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    There was a massive hospital overload in Wuhan. Since then, though, China has been responding with an elephant stomp to even single cases, they were successfully stomping on it every time it crossed the border until Delta came along. Last I knew they were at several hundred cases from one incident and last I heard they haven't contained it yet.

    Usually the response came down to a Wuhan-style lockdown in a very small area, against the other versions that was enough. This time it hasn't, they have areas where you have to show a negative test to leave, but they haven't locked down cities yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Nut View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TomC View Post

    I think it's also important to point out that China doesn't have the problems with simple measures like masks we do here. Especially in winter 2020, Chinese people were being extremely cautious because it's the sensible thing to do. (Notice you don't hear reports of massive hospital overload from China).
    But also, that long ago, C19 was still very poorly understood. It had clearly jumped the species barrier at least once. Nobody had done much research on it's ability to infect cats.
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    The city dwelling people in China have experienced the worst air pollution in the world for decades... Look at imagest from the 80's and you will see what you see today.. EVERYBODY wearing masks regularly for decades. It's not an unusual thing.. When told to wear a mask, they are like, "duh, of course I wear a mask... I always wear a mask when I go out"...
    Try to tell China they CAN'T go out with their cell phones anymore for their health... see how unitied they are then.

    Telling the Chinese to wear a mask when they go out is like telling an American they have to bring their cell phone with them when they go out... um, ok, just try to get me NOT to.
    Disagree--while routine mask wearing isn't uncommon it certainly isn't everybody.

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    Last time I was in China was October, 2019 just before Covid. I was in Xhuhai across from Hong Kong. I don't recall seeing anyone with a mask.

    In Japan you frequently see people wearing masks, especially in the subways. I'm told that when a person has a cold they wear a mask. I'm sure the Japanese are wearing masks all the time now. It's just what you do to control disease. No brainer.

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    Man punched nurse after he said wife received COVID-19 vaccine without his permission, police said

    SHERBROOKE, Quebec — Police officers in Quebec are searching for a man they said punched a nurse after the medical worker gave his wife a COVID-19 vaccine that he did not consent to.

    A police spokesperson said the man confronted the female nurse at a pharmacy in Sherbrooke where she was assigned to dispense vaccines, Reuters reported.

    “Our suspect went directly into the office and began to yell at the nurse,” spokesperson Martin Carrier told Reuters.

    Carrier said the man was upset that his wife got the shot “without his authorization” and hit the nurse in the face, Reuters reported.

    “He punched her right in the face multiple times so the nurse didn’t have the time to defend or explain herself ... and she fell to the ground and the suspect left running out of the drugstore,” Carrier told CNN.
    Asshole...
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    Uh oh...

    Ferrets now have tested positive for C19.


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    Anti-Vaccine Cartoonist Ben Garrison Says He's Got Covid-19, Won't Go to Hospital
    The pro-Trump cartoonist says he's lost about 15 pounds and is taking ivermectin.




    “We’re taking Ivermectin and various vitamins including a lot of Zinc,” Garrison continued, explaining what he’s doing to treat the disease. The cartoonist also notes he’s taking beet root juice. None of this has been proven to treat or prevent covid-19, with monoclonal antibodies and vaccines being the only real ways to fight this pandemic, which is still raging in many parts of the world.
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    Yes, because ivermectin is not produced by pharmaceutical corporations. It just appears as mana from heaven in the fields of True Believers. And no one is making money on it at all.

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