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    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    21 House Republicans vote against awarding Congressional Gold Medal to all police officers who responded on Jan. 6 - The Washington Post

    H.R.3325 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): To award four congressional gold medals to the United States Capitol Police and those who protected the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021. | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

    Sponsor: Rep. Pelosi, Nancy [D-CA-12] (Introduced 05/19/2021)
    This bill directs the Speaker of the House and the President pro tempore of the Senate to arrange for the award of four Congressional Gold Medals to the U.S. Capitol Police (USCP) and other law enforcement agencies that protected the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021.

    Following the award of these medals, one medal shall be given to the USCP, one medal shall be given to the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia, one medal shall be given to the Smithsonian Institution, and one medal shall be given to the Architect of the Capitol (AOC). The Smithsonian Institution and the AOC must display the medal with a plaque listing the other law enforcement agencies that participated in protecting the Capitol on January 6, 2021.
    There are some similar bills that were previously introduced in Congress.

    Office of the Clerk, U.S. House of Representatives - Vote Details
    • D: Y 218 nv 2
    • R: Y 188 R 21 nv 2

    Those who voted "no":

    Andy Biggs (Ariz.), Lauren Boebert (Colo.), Michael Cloud (Tex.), Andrew S. Clyde (Ga.), Warren Davidson (Ohio), Matt Gaetz (Fla.), Louie Gohmert (Tex.), Bob Good (Va.), Paul A. Gosar (Ariz.), Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.), Andy Harris (Md.), Jody Hice (Ga.), Thomas Massie (Ky.), Mary Miller (Ill.), Barry Moore (Ala.), Ralph Norman (S.C.), Scott Perry (Pa.), John Rose (Tenn.), Matthew M. Rosendale (Mont.), Chip Roy (Tex.), and Greg Steube (Fla.)

    Some of them are rather familiar right-wingers, like Lauren Boebert, Matt Gaetz, Louie Gohmert, Paul Gosar, and MTG.
    They objected to the award being granted due to the word "insurrection" being in the award statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiprHead View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    21 House Republicans vote against awarding Congressional Gold Medal to all police officers who responded on Jan. 6 - The Washington Post

    H.R.3325 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): To award four congressional gold medals to the United States Capitol Police and those who protected the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021. | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

    Sponsor: Rep. Pelosi, Nancy [D-CA-12] (Introduced 05/19/2021)
    This bill directs the Speaker of the House and the President pro tempore of the Senate to arrange for the award of four Congressional Gold Medals to the U.S. Capitol Police (USCP) and other law enforcement agencies that protected the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021.

    Following the award of these medals, one medal shall be given to the USCP, one medal shall be given to the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia, one medal shall be given to the Smithsonian Institution, and one medal shall be given to the Architect of the Capitol (AOC). The Smithsonian Institution and the AOC must display the medal with a plaque listing the other law enforcement agencies that participated in protecting the Capitol on January 6, 2021.
    There are some similar bills that were previously introduced in Congress.

    Office of the Clerk, U.S. House of Representatives - Vote Details
    • D: Y 218 nv 2
    • R: Y 188 R 21 nv 2

    Those who voted "no":

    Andy Biggs (Ariz.), Lauren Boebert (Colo.), Michael Cloud (Tex.), Andrew S. Clyde (Ga.), Warren Davidson (Ohio), Matt Gaetz (Fla.), Louie Gohmert (Tex.), Bob Good (Va.), Paul A. Gosar (Ariz.), Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.), Andy Harris (Md.), Jody Hice (Ga.), Thomas Massie (Ky.), Mary Miller (Ill.), Barry Moore (Ala.), Ralph Norman (S.C.), Scott Perry (Pa.), John Rose (Tenn.), Matthew M. Rosendale (Mont.), Chip Roy (Tex.), and Greg Steube (Fla.)

    Some of them are rather familiar right-wingers, like Lauren Boebert, Matt Gaetz, Louie Gohmert, Paul Gosar, and MTG.
    They objected to the award being granted due to the word "insurrection" being in the award statement.
    I still think "attempted coup" is more appropriate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiprHead View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    21 House Republicans vote against awarding Congressional Gold Medal to all police officers who responded on Jan. 6 - The Washington Post

    H.R.3325 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): To award four congressional gold medals to the United States Capitol Police and those who protected the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021. | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

    Sponsor: Rep. Pelosi, Nancy [D-CA-12] (Introduced 05/19/2021)
    This bill directs the Speaker of the House and the President pro tempore of the Senate to arrange for the award of four Congressional Gold Medals to the U.S. Capitol Police (USCP) and other law enforcement agencies that protected the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021.

    Following the award of these medals, one medal shall be given to the USCP, one medal shall be given to the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia, one medal shall be given to the Smithsonian Institution, and one medal shall be given to the Architect of the Capitol (AOC). The Smithsonian Institution and the AOC must display the medal with a plaque listing the other law enforcement agencies that participated in protecting the Capitol on January 6, 2021.
    There are some similar bills that were previously introduced in Congress.

    Office of the Clerk, U.S. House of Representatives - Vote Details
    • D: Y 218 nv 2
    • R: Y 188 R 21 nv 2

    Those who voted "no":

    Andy Biggs (Ariz.), Lauren Boebert (Colo.), Michael Cloud (Tex.), Andrew S. Clyde (Ga.), Warren Davidson (Ohio), Matt Gaetz (Fla.), Louie Gohmert (Tex.), Bob Good (Va.), Paul A. Gosar (Ariz.), Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.), Andy Harris (Md.), Jody Hice (Ga.), Thomas Massie (Ky.), Mary Miller (Ill.), Barry Moore (Ala.), Ralph Norman (S.C.), Scott Perry (Pa.), John Rose (Tenn.), Matthew M. Rosendale (Mont.), Chip Roy (Tex.), and Greg Steube (Fla.)

    Some of them are rather familiar right-wingers, like Lauren Boebert, Matt Gaetz, Louie Gohmert, Paul Gosar, and MTG.
    They objected to the award being granted due to the word "insurrection" being in the award statement.
    I bet they also objected to a medal going to AOC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swammerdami View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    From the Senate's site:
    U.S. Senate: U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 117th Congress - 1st Session
    Question: On the Cloture Motion (Motion to Invoke Cloture Re: Motion to Proceed to H.R. 3233)
    ...
    Required For Majority: 3/5
    Vote Result: Cloture Motion Rejected
    ...
    The vote:
    Yes 54, No 35, not voting 11
    54 / (54 + 35) = 0.6067
    0.6067 > 3/5


    Are the "not voting" votes treated as Nays?
    The answer is "Yes", as apparently verified with the first Google hit.
    And it appears that it's not just 3/5 of Senators present, but 3/5 of all 100 Senators present or not! ??

    The article linked above had to "rub it in":

    The Yea votes represented 62% of the country’s population by apportioning each state’s population to its voting senators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swammerdami View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Swammerdami View Post

    54 / (54 + 35) = 0.6067
    0.6067 > 3/5


    Are the "not voting" votes treated as Nays?
    The answer is "Yes", as apparently verified with the first Google hit.
    And it appears that it's not just 3/5 of Senators present, but 3/5 of all 100 Senators present or not! ??

    The article linked above had to "rub it in":

    The Yea votes represented 62% of the country’s population by apportioning each state’s population to its voting senators.
    As a reminder, this fact is why the Texas Legislature was unable to pass their voting 'reform' bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Floof View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ZiprHead View Post
    FBI director suggests ‘serious charges’ coming in probe of Capitol attack

    FBI Director Chris Wray on Thursday suggested “serious charges” are still coming in the criminal investigation of the deadly Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol by supporters of former President Donald Trump.

    "This is a very ongoing investigation and there's a lot more to come," Wray said during an oversight hearing held by the House of Representatives Judiciary Committee. "I would expect to see more charges — some of them maybe more serious charges."

    Wray testified that the FBI considered the attack an act of "domestic terrorism." He said he understands why Democratic lawmakers have called the attack an "insurrection," but said it would not be appropriate for him to use that word because of the effect it could have on pending criminal cases.

    "In my role as FBI director, because that's a term that has legal meaning, I really have to be careful about using words like that," Wray said.
    Why does the U.S. not have a legal term for insurrection?? Did he offer the correct legal term for when domestic terrorist try to take over the U.S. Capitol in an effort to interfere with democracy itself? What's the legal term for that?
    Under the law, being charged with incitement to insurrection under US makes you automatically ineligible to hold public office. If they are considering such a charge against sitting or would-be politicians, they would want to keep it under their hat until their case is prepared.
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    House Democrats aren't waiting for Senate Republicans to buck Mitch McConnell and Donald Trump.

    House Oversight Committee on Instagram: “Jan. 6 Part 1: Hearing Highlights…”
    Jan. 6 Part 1: Hearing Highlights

    Last month, @OversightDems held their first hearing on the #Jan6th #CapitolInsurrection.

    TODAY, at 2 PM, they will continue their investigation into one of the darkest days of our nation’s history.

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    The House usually initiates money bills.

    The saying is "a house divided ..." meaning "a government divided ...". In the US the problem is that one branch of a divided government is divided.

    It sure isn't the House. McConnell is in the Senate.

    Care to explain how your comment applies.

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