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    Quote Originally Posted by Mumbles View Post
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    Haha! Who's going to cancel me? The mob? Oh No!

    but seriously....I don't know alot about Farrakhan but I know he was a polarizing figure. I am a Jew and I know he spoke against Israel. I have myself. Bibi is a dik.
    Farrakhan praised Hitler because of the attempt to eradicate the Jews. Surely you don't have enough self-loathing to not condemn Farrakhan for preaching such shit. But then the right condemns him for it and maybe you just can't bring yourself to agree with anything the right says.
    Well, the real problem is that the "right", by and large, does not denounce him, despite the fact that he's obviously deeply conservative himself (staunchly capitalist, believes men should head households, deeply anti-LGBT [to the point of claiming that the Jews are behind the existence of black gay men), strongly distrustful of government interference [mostly because he sees it as controlled by white people...which, I mean...], strongly religious [granted, a goofball black nationalist religion, but still]), but rather use him as a bludgeon against black Americans.

    Meanwhile, the generation of people who used to use the word "woke" to mean aware of anti-black racism are generally unconcerned with him, and many believe that he died years ago.

    It's not much, but he is a useful example to show the complete misunderstanding that white conservatives and centrists have over the very meaning of the term woke", who used it before it became a sneer term for republicans to scare and rally voters, and so forth.
    Why would the right condemn anybody on their side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheerful Charlie View Post
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    Haha! Who's going to cancel me? The mob? Oh No!

    but seriously....I don't know alot about Farrakhan but I know he was a polarizing figure. I am a Jew and I know he spoke against Israel. I have myself. Bibi is a dik.
    Google Farrakhan, anti-Semitism for particulars.

    https://www.adl.org/education/resour...-his-own-words

    Farrakhan is an idiot who peddles hate. Rank anti-semitism
    The phrase "blood sucking Jew", I believe has been uttered by him. I think 9/11 shut him up for a while. Is he making a comeback?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrZoidberg View Post
    JohnG, FYI I notice how you conflate everyone on the right as alt right. They're not.
    They voted en masse for Trump in 2020. They proved, in general, they'd rather have a fascist elected than a Democrat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrZoidberg View Post
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    Haha! Who's going to cancel me? The mob? Oh No!

    but seriously....I don't know alot about Farrakhan but I know he was a polarizing figure. I am a Jew and I know he spoke against Israel. I have myself. Bibi is a dik.
    Google Farrakhan, anti-Semitism for particulars.

    https://www.adl.org/education/resour...-his-own-words

    Farrakhan is an idiot who peddles hate. Rank anti-semitism
    He's just a run-of-the-mill fascist. The only reason anybody takes him seriously in polite society is because he's black. It's racism of low expectations.

    The fact that he's not vocally condemned by the left on par with Trump or Hitler is because the woke left is racist as fuck. They can't deal with black people who refuse being victims and who don't want their sympathy and help.
    well, no, the main people who "take him seriously" are people in their 40s and up who recall him as either

    1) the bigot who nevertheless reformed criminals and whose organization provided the best substitute for "law enforcement" back when the function of actual police with respect to black people was to oppress them violently, or

    2) the bigot who nevertheless was the only national leader willing to deal with younger black men in the 90s as much more than a menace - his willingness to work out truces between potentially violent groups, and of course his Million Man March, which was themed entirely about black men pledging to work on self-improvement, commitment to family, and the like.

    The "woke", ie. younger black people, don't condemn him because they rarely bother to think about him at all. He's simply not an important figure to them, while, say, Toupee Fiasco was the head of the executive branch of the US government, and used his authority at every possible place to attack nonwhite people, whether individually (see. having Colin Kaepernick blackballed), institutionally (see. blocking attempts at police reform, or rhetorically (openly advocating racial violence and segregation).

    In contrast, Farrakhan's actual religious followers number...possibly 10,000, though likely less than that. In other words, he's a fringe figure at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins View Post
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    JohnG, FYI I notice how you conflate everyone on the right as alt right. They're not.
    They voted en masse for Trump in 2020. They proved, in general, they'd rather have a fascist elected than a Democrat.
    Did they? They chose (for them) the least bad of two bad options. They correctly gambled on that Trump wouldn't be able to derail American democracy, (although he gave his best shot).

    I think you're being a bit harsh against Republicans. The Republicans is also the party the counter culture hippies vote for. So they can't only be pure evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrZoidberg View Post
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    JohnG, FYI I notice how you conflate everyone on the right as alt right. They're not.
    They voted en masse for Trump in 2020. They proved, in general, they'd rather have a fascist elected than a Democrat.
    Did they? They chose (for them) the least bad of two bad options. They correctly gambled on that Trump wouldn't be able to derail American democracy, (although he gave his best shot).

    I think you're being a bit harsh against Republicans. The Republicans is also the party the counter culture hippies vote for. So they can't only be pure evil.
    Yes, they did. Biden was an old school Democrat that is about as moderate as it gets. They picked the fascist over him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrZoidberg View Post
    JohnG, FYI I notice how you conflate everyone on the right as alt right. They're not.
    I don't think I made that assertion.

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    I am glad that the Ugandans are not woke


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    Quote Originally Posted by repoman View Post
    I am glad that the Ugandans are not woke

    I love how they somehow don't react to that their pastor is watching gay scat porn in church. Captain closet!

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    Also, that the preach instinctively reaches for his high holy roller voice on the line, "HE PUTS THE HAND DEEPER!!" Not "DO YOU FEEL JESUS IN YOUR SOUL??!" but "HE PUTS THE HAND DEEPER!!"

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