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    The trials of the Capitol assaulters

    Starting a new thread for the judicial proceedings against the insurrectionists.

    First up is Jacob Anthony Chansley aka Jacob Angeli aka QAnon Shaman.

    He is being tried in DC, and this is the Indictment.

    That just lists the basics of the 6 charges: civil disorder, obstruction of an official proceeding, entry and remaining in a restricted building, disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building, violent entry and disorderly conduct in a Capitol building, parading, demonstrating, or picketing in a Capitol building.

    But the US attorney yesterday filed a brief in support of detaining Angeli which has more detail.

    GOVERNMENT’S BRIEF IN SUPPORT OF DETENTION

    It is quite a read, most of the 17 pages is arguing why he's a flight risk, but it also goes into details of what he did at the Capitol and how explicitly he admitted during that he was there to overthrow the government, and how he wanted to come back for the inauguration. Here are some excerpts. It starts out,

    For the reasons set forth below, the Court should order Chansley to be detained pending trial. Chansley is an active participant in—and has made himself the most prominent symbol of—a violent insurrection that attempted to overthrow the United States Government on January 6, 2021. Chansley has expressed interest in returning to Washington, D.C. for President-Elect Biden’s inauguration and has the ability to do so if the Court releases him.
    It says he was carrying a weapon, which makes the charges worse. His flagpole was a spear, the document includes photos within the text (nice how they can do that now).

    Chansley approached Officer Robishaw and screamed, among other things, that this was their house, and that they were there to take the Capitol, and to get Congressional leaders. Chansley also used his bullhorn to communicate that they were there to take out several United States congressmen.
    He even left a threatening note for Pence.

    Officer Robishaw, alone with more than 25 rioters in the Senate Chamber, attempted to engage with Chansley and asked for his assistance to use the bullhorn to get the protestors out of the Chamber. Instead of doing so, Chansley ran up on the dais where Vice President Pence had been presiding just minutes before, and begin posing on the dais for other rioters to document and photograph, and wrote a note to Vice President Pence saying, “it's only a matter of time, justice is coming.”
    He actually called the FBI to confess.

    On January 7, 2021, Chansley called the Washington Field Office of the FBI and requested to speak with law enforcement. Chansley confessed that he was the man photographed at Vice President Pence’s chair on the Senate dais, face painted, carrying the spear and wearing a horned helmet. He said that he was able to get into the United States Senate in D.C. “by the grace of God.”
    How he bragged to media about the attack.

    “The fact that we had a bunch of our traitors in office hunker down, put on their gas masks and retreat into their underground bunker, I consider that a win,” Chansley said. Chansley stated that he drove to Washington, D.C. as a part of a group effort, with other “patriots” from Arizona, at the request of the President that all “patriots” come to D.C. on January 6, 2021.
    He planned to go to the AZ Capitol next.

    Twice, Chansley told the FBI that he had plans after the January 9 FBI interview to drive to the Arizona State Capitol. Corroborating his statement, Chansley had his horns, furry coyote tail headdress, face paint, tan pants, sixfoot-long spear, and his bullhorn inside the 2003 Hyundai that he parked at the FBI.
    Some on why he is a flight risk.

    Chansley also stated he has no mental health conditions, but publicly-available information and videos reveal a very different picture. Chansley has spoken openly about his belief that he is an alien, a higher being, and he is here on Earth to ascend to another reality. He subscribes to QAnon, a group who believes a debunked and fictitious conspiracy claim that Satan-worshipping cannibalistic pedophiles are running a global child sex-trafficking ring and plotting against President Donald Trump.
    The crimes charged in the indictment involve active participation in an insurrection attempting to violently overthrow the United States Government. By Chansley’s own admissions to the FBI and news media, the insurrection is still in progress and he intends to continue participating.
    Strong evidence, including Chansley’s own words and actions at the Capitol, supports that the intent of the Capitol rioters was to capture and assassinate elected officials in the United States Government. Chansley left a note on the Senate Chamber dais, where Vice President Mike Pence had been presiding over the session just minutes before, warning “it's only a matter of time, justice is coming.” When questioned as to the meaning of that statement, Chansley went on a lengthy diatribe describing current and past United States political leaders as infiltrators, specifically naming Vice President Mike Pence, former President Barack Obama, former Senator Hillary Clinton and U.S. President-elect Joe Biden as infiltrators involved in various types of wrongdoing. Although he stated his note was not a threat, the Government strongly disagrees.
    Even used his hunger strike against him.

    Even now, Chansley continues to demonstrate a refusal to conform despite personal hardship as a consequence. Chansley’s choice to refuse to eat because he is not provided an organic diet in custody is predictive of how he will behave if conditions of pre-trial supervision do not suit him. If released, numerous conditions will alter and affect his routine and set forth daily expectations by which he must confirm. Chansley will not comply.
    His lawyer has been asking in public for Trump to pardon him. As I understand it, if Trump is convicted in the impeachment, he can't issue pardons related to the impeachment.

    Can Trump pardon himself? - The Washington Post

    But also note that Trump can issue pardons in secret without making them public.

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    The guy is a nutter. He'll likely be psychiatrically evaluated for fitness to stand trial, if there is a trial.

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    Dude turned himself in to maximize his Presidential pardon chances since he knows Trump is gone on 1/20/21. By saying the most outlandishly pro Trump stuff he hopes to use the media as his tool for panhandling for said pardon. I think the FBI is being cautious and not adding anything from Title 18 until Trump is out of the picture. I know at least sedition applies.

    §2384. Seditious conspiracy
    If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
    Congress was in session performing the lawful act of counting electoral votes and was stopped as a result of his (and many others) forceful interference.

    Edit: Never mind. I really should learn to read documents before posting.

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    Where are they going to find Viking jurors to hear the case for 'face paint + horns' guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ideologyhunter View Post
    Where are they going to find Viking jurors to hear the case for 'face paint + horns' guy?
    He's wearing a Cherokee war bonnet. I'm sure we can find 12 Native Americans can share their stories of how the y earned theirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith&Co. View Post
    He's wearing a Cherokee war bonnet.
    Really? I thought it was something out of Flintstones.


    I'm sure we can find 12 Native Americans can share their stories of how the y earned theirs.
    Will one of them be Elizabeth Warren?

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    Speaking for trials of Capitol assaulters. What about this guy?

    Utah activist who allegedly rioted at U.S. Capitol has been arrested




    Crazy Eyes ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derec View Post
    Speaking for trials of Capitol assaulters. What about this guy?

    Utah activist who allegedly rioted at U.S. Capitol has been arrested




    Crazy Eyes ...
    And you wonder why people call you racist?

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    "Speaking of Capitol assaulters, who were mostly white, hey, look at this non-white guy!"-Derec

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    fairly solid


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