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    Quote Originally Posted by Toni View Post
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    wow! This is a thread for questions for women. I asked a question for women. I guess I’m not wanted here. Thanks for clearing that up.
    A woman answered a question and you critiqued her answer. Maybe not the best way to go here.
    I did not critique it. I asked for more clarification. The question was why most bras clasped in the back when it would seem easier to clasp in front. The answer was that she puts it on backwards, clasps in the front, and turns it around. But the question was not about how a woman does it but why it’s designed that way so I asked if it “appears” simpler to have clasps in front then what is it that makes it more common to clasp in back. I guess you interpreted my post differently than that. Perhaps it is simply difficult to get the proper tone in a post like this but I had no expectation that what I wrote would be considered “mansplaining” since I offered no explanation just further questioning.

    ETA: I went back to my post to read it again. I think you maybe reacted to the last part. In that part, after the question, I was stating what answers there *might* be and was hoping that one of you would offer up your answer rather than assume what I was stating was what I was saying women do feel. Because I do not know the answer. That’s why I asked.

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    wow! This is a thread for questions for women. I asked a question for women. I guess I’m not wanted here. Thanks for clearing that up.
    A woman answered a question and you critiqued her answer. Maybe not the best way to go here.
    I did not critique it. I asked for more clarification. The question was why most bras clasped in the back when it would seem easier to clasp in front. The answer was that she puts it on backwards, clasps in the front, and turns it around. But the question was not about how a woman does it but why it’s designed that way so I asked if it “appears” simpler to have clasps in front then what is it that makes it more common to clasp in back. I guess you interpreted my post differently than that. Perhaps it is simply difficult to get the proper tone in a post like this but I had no expectation that what I wrote would be considered “mansplaining” since I offered no explanation just further questioning.
    You are right that tone can be difficult to convey and difficult to discern on the internet.

    The first sentence Of your post sounded more like criticism than inquiry to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowy Man View Post
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    wow! This is a thread for questions for women. I asked a question for women. I guess I’m not wanted here. Thanks for clearing that up.
    A woman answered a question and you critiqued her answer. Maybe not the best way to go here.
    I did not critique it. I asked for more clarification. The question was why most bras clasped in the back when it would seem easier to clasp in front. The answer was that she puts it on backwards, clasps in the front, and turns it around. But the question was not about how a woman does it but why it’s designed that way so I asked if it “appears” simpler to have clasps in front then what is it that makes it more common to clasp in back. I guess you interpreted my post differently than that. Perhaps it is simply difficult to get the proper tone in a post like this but I had no expectation that what I wrote would be considered “mansplaining” since I offered no explanation just further questioning.

    ETA: I went back to my post to read it again. I think you maybe reacted to the last part. In that part, after the question, I was stating what answers there *might* be and was hoping that one of you would offer up your answer rather than assume what I was stating was what I was saying women do feel. Because I do not know the answer. That’s why I asked.
    Yeah you got kind of a raw deal there, Shadowy Man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toni View Post
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    I did not critique it. I asked for more clarification. The question was why most bras clasped in the back when it would seem easier to clasp in front. The answer was that she puts it on backwards, clasps in the front, and turns it around. But the question was not about how a woman does it but why it’s designed that way so I asked if it “appears” simpler to have clasps in front then what is it that makes it more common to clasp in back. I guess you interpreted my post differently than that. Perhaps it is simply difficult to get the proper tone in a post like this but I had no expectation that what I wrote would be considered “mansplaining” since I offered no explanation just further questioning.
    You are right that tone can be difficult to convey and difficult to discern on the internet.

    The first sentence Of your post sounded more like criticism than inquiry to me.
    I agree it could be read that way. I tried to express my thought with the words “sounds like”. The tone should have come across quizzically rather than critically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowy Man View Post
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    I did not critique it. I asked for more clarification. The question was why most bras clasped in the back when it would seem easier to clasp in front. The answer was that she puts it on backwards, clasps in the front, and turns it around. But the question was not about how a woman does it but why it’s designed that way so I asked if it “appears” simpler to have clasps in front then what is it that makes it more common to clasp in back. I guess you interpreted my post differently than that. Perhaps it is simply difficult to get the proper tone in a post like this but I had no expectation that what I wrote would be considered “mansplaining” since I offered no explanation just further questioning.
    You are right that tone can be difficult to convey and difficult to discern on the internet.

    The first sentence Of your post sounded more like criticism than inquiry to me.
    I agree it could be read that way. I tried to express my thought with the words “sounds like”. The tone should have come across quizzically rather than critically.
    Or: you could have expressed sympathy with the fact that women in the US and much of the rest of the world are expected to wear an undergarment that requires some maneuvering to put on.

    Or simply said: I did not know that.

    I mean, personally, jock straps always confused me. And cups. I mean, how did they not hurt? For that matter, as a child I was quite confused how boys managed to run or climb trees or do anything at all with a penis dangling between their legs. Aside from the convenience of being able to pee on a tree or fire hydrant instead of running inside to the bathroom, a penis seemed quite uncomfortable a thing to have. But these were not questions that girls were supposed to ask back in the days of jock straps and cups....

    So, whatever my husband tells me about them, I simply take as gospel, without question. He has assured me, several times, that underwear is sufficient to control the bobbing about of boy parts when they run and play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southernhybrid View Post
    Why do some men wear boxer shorts, while other wear bikini style underwear?
    When I was a boy I wore bikini-style briefs because that's what my dad wore, and that's what my mum bought. When satin boxer shorts became popular (around about the same time it became popular for suburban Australian boys to wear their pants extremely low) I started wearing those instead. I found boxer shorts extremely comfortable, but they lead to some complications later on. During my teens I transferred to a private school that mandated a strict school uniform, including wool trousers. Unlike the loose pants I was permitted in public school, these pants had a relatively high crotch, and I tended to have conspicuous bulge down one leg that would vary in size depending on the weather. On top of that, teenage boys are prone to frequent erections, which can be extremely difficult to conceal without any support down there. I would often resort to walking around with my hands in my pockets, boner in hand to stop it dropping down my pants leg, or I would tuck it into my belt. A few years later I switched to trunks, which actually hold one's doodle in place (even during a sudden stiffy) without being as uncomfortable as briefs.

    Basically boxer shorts are nice and comfy, but they aren't a one-size-fits-all solution.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toni View Post
    I mean, personally, jock straps always confused me.
    Same.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toni View Post
    And cups. I mean, how did they not hurt?
    They are uncomfortable. When I used to do martial arts I would wear one every training session, even when it wasn't needed, just so I could get used to it. They never really fit properly, either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toni View Post
    For that matter, as a child I was quite confused how boys managed to run or climb trees or do anything at all with a penis dangling between their legs.

    So, whatever my husband tells me about them, I simply take as gospel, without question. He has assured me, several times, that underwear is sufficient to control the bobbing about of boy parts when they run and play.
    Well, not boxer shorts. Those aren't good for anything except catching a couple of drops of wee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigfield View Post

    When I was a boy I wore bikini-style briefs because that's what my dad wore, and that's what my mum bought. When satin boxer shorts became popular (around about the same time it became popular for suburban Australian boys to wear their pants extremely low) I started wearing those instead. I found boxer shorts extremely comfortable, but they lead to some complications later on. During my teens I transferred to a private school that mandated a strict school uniform, including wool trousers. Unlike the loose pants I was permitted in public school, these pants had a relatively high crotch, and I tended to have conspicuous bulge down one leg that would vary in size depending on the weather. On top of that, teenage boys are prone to frequent erections, which can be extremely difficult to conceal without any support down there. I would often resort to walking around with my hands in my pockets, boner in hand to stop it dropping down my pants leg, or I would tuck it into my belt. A few years later I switched to trunks, which actually hold one's doodle in place (even during a sudden stiffy) without being as uncomfortable as briefs.

    Basically boxer shorts are nice and comfy, but they aren't a one-size-fits-all solution.



    Same.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toni View Post
    And cups. I mean, how did they not hurt?
    They are uncomfortable. When I used to do martial arts I would wear one every training session, even when it wasn't needed, just so I could get used to it. They never really fit properly, either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toni View Post
    For that matter, as a child I was quite confused how boys managed to run or climb trees or do anything at all with a penis dangling between their legs.

    So, whatever my husband tells me about them, I simply take as gospel, without question. He has assured me, several times, that underwear is sufficient to control the bobbing about of boy parts when they run and play.
    Well, not boxer shorts. Those aren't good for anything except catching a couple of drops of wee.
    NM, I am not fully awake yet and you answered what I was going to ask. My husband has told me about the trials and tribulations of being in class with attractive girls and teachers and hiding a spontaneous erection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowy Man View Post
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    wow! This is a thread for questions for women. I asked a question for women. I guess I’m not wanted here. Thanks for clearing that up.
    A woman answered a question and you critiqued her answer. Maybe not the best way to go here.
    I did not critique it. I asked for more clarification. The question was why most bras clasped in the back when it would seem easier to clasp in front. The answer was that she puts it on backwards, clasps in the front, and turns it around. But the question was not about how a woman does it but why it’s designed that way so I asked if it “appears” simpler to have clasps in front then what is it that makes it more common to clasp in back. I guess you interpreted my post differently than that. Perhaps it is simply difficult to get the proper tone in a post like this but I had no expectation that what I wrote would be considered “mansplaining” since I offered no explanation just further questioning.

    ETA: I went back to my post to read it again. I think you maybe reacted to the last part. In that part, after the question, I was stating what answers there *might* be and was hoping that one of you would offer up your answer rather than assume what I was stating was what I was saying women do feel. Because I do not know the answer. That’s why I asked.
    I thought my explanation was quite clear. For those of us who have worn bras with clasps in the back, I told you exactly how easy it is to put them on. There is nothing more to clarify. I assume they were designed that way because they are very easy to put on and take off in the way that I explained. Of course not all women are the same. Some might like the bras that clasp in the front, and some might even like wearing the dreadful bras that have underwire cups. We aren't all built the same way and what may work for one, may not work well for someone else.

    There are many different styles of underpants for both men and women. I guess that most people wear the style that works best for their figures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toni View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Toni View Post
    What few men and not enough women understand about bras is that the primary support comes from the band that goes around the body. It most frequently clasps in back because that part of a woman’s body tends to be flatter, allowing fir a broader band which typically is a bit more contoured in the front, to fit around the front, more bowed portion of the rib cage.

    I’ve tried front clasp bras and don’t find them as comfortable. This was true even when I was quite thin and required less support—in fact, wore bras for modesty only.

    There are many different styles and sizes of bras because they need to fit as well
    as possible in order to provide needed support and to be comfortable. An uncomfortable bra can dig into shoulders and ribcages, can ride up so that the band digs into the breast. Women with larger breasts especially need well fitting, well made bras that provide sufficient support to avoid debilitating back aches.

    It’s not the same as buying a three pack of Hanes t’shirts. Unfortunately.
    As a male I have a hard time picturing a good front clasp design. Typically the bra cups basically touch in front--where are you going to put the clasp??
    Between the cups. It’s not the same type of hooks as on a back clasping bra so it works but not great. I thought it would be a great convenience but it really wasn’t—except while I was breast feeding. That would not have worked very well if I had been larger busted and needed the extra support more than I did. Truthfully, fro t clasps, which are typically plastic, just don’t last as long and are not adjustable. Most bras have two or three sets of hooks in the band that allow you to tighten the fir as the elastic gives, allowing the bra to last longer. Also: bras do not belong in a dryer—too hard on the ekastic. A good bra is not inexpensive but worth the cost. You just have to take care of it.
    We are probably just 20 years away from superconductor bras, lift without the wire.

    Here is a question, are women against wearing loose pants because they think tight pants are comfortable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Toni View Post

    Between the cups. It’s not the same type of hooks as on a back clasping bra so it works but not great. I thought it would be a great convenience but it really wasn’t—except while I was breast feeding. That would not have worked very well if I had been larger busted and needed the extra support more than I did. Truthfully, fro t clasps, which are typically plastic, just don’t last as long and are not adjustable. Most bras have two or three sets of hooks in the band that allow you to tighten the fir as the elastic gives, allowing the bra to last longer. Also: bras do not belong in a dryer—too hard on the ekastic. A good bra is not inexpensive but worth the cost. You just have to take care of it.
    We are probably just 20 years away from superconductor bras, lift without the wire.

    Here is a question, are women against wearing loose pants because they think tight pants are comfortable?
    It's tough, unless you are under 20 and 5'10+, weighing under 120 lbs. Too loose and you look shorter and dumpier and no one wants that. Too tight and you look like you bought your pants 20 lbs (or more) ago and nobody wants that. It can be really, really, really tough to find a pair of jeans or pants that does what it's supposed to do: make you look taller, thinner, hipper, younger, and smarter AND have convenient and sufficiently deep pockets that don't make your hips or your ass look huge. There are about 70 bajillion different makers/styles/sizes of jeans and pants, no two of which will consistently even semi-fit you. Even--get this: if you go to the same store on the same day and in the same department store dressing room, try on 3 different pairs of the same style (verified by tag) and same size (again, verified by tag) of stupid boring pants that you can wear to work and meet the 'business casual' dress code while staying within the 'don't pay too much because you're only going to destroy them when something heinous spills or splashes on them in the lab price/quality point.

    Do not even get me started on jeans. I will say that I exercise extreme brand loyalty when it comes to jeans.

    Women are wearing a LOT of leggings these days during the pandemic. Not because anyone deludes themselves that they look good or will last more than a dozen washings but because Zoom usually only shows you from the waist up if you are even a little clever and you can bend over to pick stuff up in them.

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