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    Why did our universe begin? (Split from Atheist wins Nobel Prize thread)

    In a 17-minute interview Roger Penrose explains his cyclic conformal cosmology. This YouTube is part of a "Closer To Truth" Channel with several Penrose interviews.

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    Why did our universe begin? (Split from Atheist wins Nobel Prize thread)

    Why did our universe begin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion IRC View Post
    Why did our universe begin?
    I see two baseless assumptions in that leading question.
    1. That the universe had a beginning.
    2. That there was a reason for a beginning.

    ETA:
    If you watch the video, you will see that the point of Penrose's cosmological theory is that the question is a nonsense question.

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    Amen. Er...ditto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion IRC View Post
    Why did our universe begin?
    WOW. NEVER HEARD THAT QUESTION BEFORE. I'M STUMPED. TIME TO BECOME A THEIST I GUESS.

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    I got there ahead of you. For me it was, "If man evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?" I caved and bought the Book of Mormon that day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ideologyhunter View Post
    I got there ahead of you. For me it was, "If man evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?" I caved and bought the Book of Mormon that day.
    [Future Biff hits past Biff in the back of the head.] It's "If monkeys evolved into man, why are there still monkeys?" You sound like a damn fool when you say it wrong!

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    Bomb#20 messes around with the relatives again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fromderinside View Post
    Bomb#20 messes around with the relatives again.


    ...
    Till Brown of Calaveras brought a lot of fossil bones
    That he found within a tunnel near the tenement of Jones.

    Then Brown he read a paper, and he reconstructed there,
    From those same bones, an animal that was extremely rare;
    And Jones then asked the Chair for a suspension of the rules,
    Till he could prove that those same bones was one of his lost mules.

    Then Brown he smiled a bitter smile, and said he was at fault,
    It seemed he had been trespassing on Jones’s family vault;
    He was a most sarcastic man, this quiet Mr. Brown,
    And on several occasions he had cleaned out the town.

    Now I hold it is not decent for a scientific gent
    To say another is an ass,—at least, to all intent;
    Nor should the individual who happens to be meant
    Reply by heaving rocks at him, to any great extent.
    ...

    - Bret Harte

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bomb#20 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ideologyhunter View Post
    I got there ahead of you. For me it was, "If man evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?" I caved and bought the Book of Mormon that day.
    [Future Biff hits past Biff in the back of the head.] It's "If monkeys evolved into man, why are there still monkeys?" You sound like a damn fool when you say it wrong!
    If Christians evolved from Jews . . . . (why are their still Jews?) - saw this once on a bumper sticker, right under a Darwin Fish symbol.

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