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    Quote Originally Posted by SLD View Post
    How would you survive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLD View Post
    You can bring some things with you. No tank. But some small arms, AR -15 or so. Maybe some other things. How would you survive. We’ll make it North America so you have to deal with T. rex.
    Can I bring some chickens and pigs, along with viruses and bacteria?

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    If time travel was possible, I guess cross contamination between time periods could be a serious issue.

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    I think one thing to bring with you is about 100 other people. A group of people can win a fight against almost any animal. And bring dogs too. They are very useful animals.
    Not sure that we could find what plants we could eat. Maybe some people need to be plant experts.

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    Gun nuts always think their firearms are going to make them invincible somehow... I assure you, a lot of the morons who manage to die in polar bear country, lion country, etc, do so clutching expensive death toys in their hands. If anything, firearms have a way of attracting bears these days, they're smart and they know there might be a fresh kill nearby when they hear it. At which point you will need the noise makers and the bear spray anyway.

    I still don't see any point in going on this time travel adventure in the first place if killing animals is your only objective while there. You wouldn't be accomplishing much given that they are all, by definition, already dead. But messing around with the population balance of a keystone species of an ancient ecosystem could have drastic and unpredictable effects on the present. A time traveler who doesn't want their own species to suddenly blip out of existence should be trying to minimize, not maximize, their impact on the target landscape.
    "Banish me from Eden when you will, but first let me eat of the tree of knowledge."

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    I've been doing some research on emergency supplies, and I'm pretty sure I could survive a few weeks with a pallet-load of two ply toilet paper.

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    A flame thrower might be effective as a dinosaur repellant. Maybe even more so with the higher atmospheric oxygen level. Also I'm thinking roast dinosaur would taste like chicken. Bringing a bag of rice for planting would be a good idea. Actually all kinds of seeds. And some asparagus shoots. Pot, pan, and steamer basket. Fork, knife. First aid stuff, mosquito netting, nail clippers. Small traps. Rope and string. Penicillin. Axe, pick and shovel, bucket. 'Cause living in a hole might be the best long term option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Politesse View Post
    Gun nuts always think their firearms are going to make them invincible somehow...
    Baseless ad hom assertion.
    I assure you, a lot of the morons who manage to die in polar bear country, lion country, etc, do so clutching expensive death toys in their hands.
    You got any hard data on that or was it just an assertion?? There are people who were in those areas that survived because they did have guns for protection.
    If anything, firearms have a way of attracting bears these days, they're smart and they know there might be a fresh kill nearby when they hear it.
    WTF? Who the hell told you such a thing, or did it just pop into your head?
    I still don't see any point in going on this time travel adventure in the first place if killing animals is your only objective while there.
    Strawman.... I have seen no one in this thread other than you that has suggested it was a hunting safari. I see a suggestion that any weapon would be for protection if being attacked by a predictor.


    So much for the derail. Back to survival during the Cretaceous...

    I still think bringing a time machine to get back to when there was fast food stores would be damned handy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Politesse View Post
    Gun nuts always think their firearms are going to make them invincible somehow... I assure you, a lot of the morons who manage to die in polar bear country, lion country, etc, do so clutching expensive death toys in their hands. If anything, firearms have a way of attracting bears these days, they're smart and they know there might be a fresh kill nearby when they hear it. At which point you will need the noise makers and the bear spray anyway.

    I still don't see any point in going on this time travel adventure in the first place if killing animals is your only objective while there. You wouldn't be accomplishing much given that they are all, by definition, already dead. But messing around with the population balance of a keystone species of an ancient ecosystem could have drastic and unpredictable effects on the present. A time traveler who doesn't want their own species to suddenly blip out of existence should be trying to minimize, not maximize, their impact on the target landscape.
    I don't see anyone suggesting it as a hunting trip.

    The issue is that there are multiple animals back there that would regard us as prey.

    In modern times animals that interact with humans have generally learned not to regard us as prey--the only thing that will readily try to eat a human is a polar bear. Note how little contact polar bears have with humanity, there hasn't been time to evolve a pattern of not eating humans.

    Nothing in the cretaceous will have this fear of humans, we will be evaluated only on our size--and that makes us prey to multiple carnivores. We can't run well, if you run into one of those animals and aren't armed you're lunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel View Post
    I don't see anyone suggesting it as a hunting trip.

    The issue is that there are multiple animals back there that would regard us as prey.

    In modern times animals that interact with humans have generally learned not to regard us as prey--the only thing that will readily try to eat a human is a polar bear. Note how little contact polar bears have with humanity, there hasn't been time to evolve a pattern of not eating humans.

    Nothing in the cretaceous will have this fear of humans, we will be evaluated only on our size--and that makes us prey to multiple carnivores. We can't run well, if you run into one of those animals and aren't armed you're lunch.
    All good stuff.

    Except there are several predators that will kill and eat a human as a 'target of opportunity'... most of the big cats will. The polar bear is one of the few that will actually stalk humans. Tigers also stalk humans. There are about twenty people per year that are taken by tigers just in the Sundarbans of India and Bangladesh.

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