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    Quote Originally Posted by barbos View Post
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    Comparing Russia to NK or even China is ridiculous. There are different degrees of freedom of the press. But that's not the question here. Question here is what's your excuse for MSM being so atrocious when it comes to Russia?
    There is no excuse for the MSM in the Western world to be so atrocious when it comes to Russia, because they are quite simply very good. They can be relied on to print the truth, and the Russian MSM cannot. That's not to say that they always get everything right, but no reasonable person would expect that they would.

    Barbos is right to say that Russia is very different from North Korea and China. North Korea has no publicly visible dissidents, because they are quite simply incarcerated and/or executed when discovered. China has a more free-wheeling society, and it does have some visible dissidents. Russia seems to have more publicly visible dissidents who are quite willing to become martyrs, Alexei Navalny being the latest example. Unlike China, Russia has a very active, organized pro-democracy protest movement. And there are media accessible on the internet that are critical of the Putin regime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copernicus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by barbos View Post
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    Comparing Russia to NK or even China is ridiculous. There are different degrees of freedom of the press. But that's not the question here. Question here is what's your excuse for MSM being so atrocious when it comes to Russia?
    There is no excuse for the MSM in the Western world to be so atrocious when it comes to Russia, because they are quite simply very good.
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    No, they are not, you are a proof of that.

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    Hooray barbos. A spot on ad hominem in return for a contrary point of view. I knew you have it in you. Doesn't everybody.

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    The good news on Navalny today is that he has agreed to end his hunger strike, since he has seen doctors he trusts and his own physicians wrote him to advise him that he was on the brink of death. He has joked that in his present malnourished state, he could be used to scare children who refused to eat their food. This, together with the promised Russian pullback from Ukraine's border, should be enough to lessen the possibility of further sanctions from the Biden administration. It looks like Putin is going to agree to Biden's invitation to a summit meeting in the summer. At least, he has not rejected the idea. Let's hope that this leads to some progress in relations between the US and Russia, which will now be based on diplomacy rather than personalities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copernicus View Post
    The good news on Navalny today is that he has agreed to end his hunger strike, since he has seen doctors he trusts and his own physicians wrote him to advise him that he was on the brink of death. He has joked that in his present malnourished state, he could be used to scare children who refused to eat their food. This, together with the promised Russian pullback from Ukraine's border, should be enough to lessen the possibility of further sanctions from the Biden administration. It looks like Putin is going to agree to Biden's invitation to a summit meeting in the summer. At least, he has not rejected the idea. Let's hope that this leads to some progress in relations between the US and Russia, which will now be based on diplomacy rather than personalities.
    "Relations" during the last administration could be hardly considered relations. There was a relationship, wherein one party (Putin) told the other (Trump) what to do to keep the kompromat from being revealed, and in return for total compliance Putin would help and advise Trump how to take over the USA, using the same playbook he had used in Russia.

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