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    Biden should give Bibi a carte blanche to proverbially till the grass over and plant a more wholesome ground cover than the nasty weeds of Hamas. No more half measures!
    My "America First" opinions are that Biden should move our embassy back to Tel Aviv and cut off taxpayer funded military aid to everyone in the region.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Bosch View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post

    How do you stay peaceful when you are being oppressed?

    When your land is stolen continually?

    When you can't have an open water port or airport?

    When you can't come and go from your own home as you choose?

    When your people have been kidnapped and tortured and murdered for decades now?

    How does one stay peaceful in the face of decades of violent oppression?
    Here's a thought: why not find some good leadership, promote it, seek a two state solution with Israel that works for both sides?
    With 400,000 Israeli settlers in the WB, that will be a tough find for any leadership in Israel...this is a giant FU by design...

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    The solution is to forcibly remove everyone from within the borders of Israel. If the infants can't learn to share and stop bickering, turn the damn car around, and there will be no Holy Land for anyone.

    Impose this solution with a moderately long (but immutable) deadline for implementation - say, a decade - and if the two sides cannot reach a mutually agreeable alternative solution, fuck the lot of them. evacuate the country and shoot anyone who tries to go back.

    Childish nonsense isn't helped by the grownups taking sides. Anyone who supports either side in this is an idiot. They're all horrible. The rest of the world needs to stop pretending that either is better than the other. There are no gods, and therefore no god given rights or god given lands. If people can't live with each other, let them all go somewhere else.

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    Anyone who supports either side in this is an idiot.
    Now Now...

    Let's make a clear distinction between the people and the elite.

    The people want peace and prosperity. It's the elite who want violence and conflict, on both sides.

    Let's choose to take sides with the little people against the elite? How about that?
    Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomC View Post
    Anyone who supports either side in this is an idiot.
    Now Now...

    Let's make a clear distinction between the people and the elite.

    The people want peace and prosperity. It's the elite who want violence and conflict, on both sides.

    Let's choose to take sides with the little people against the elite? How about that?
    Tom
    You mean like the little people who went to the capital on January 6th?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomC View Post
    Anyone who supports either side in this is an idiot.
    Now Now...

    Let's make a clear distinction between the people and the elite.

    The people want peace and prosperity. It's the elite who want violence and conflict, on both sides.

    Let's choose to take sides with the little people against the elite? How about that?
    Tom
    Mmmmm the little people want bloodshed too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J842P View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TomC View Post
    Anyone who supports either side in this is an idiot.
    Now Now...

    Let's make a clear distinction between the people and the elite.

    The people want peace and prosperity. It's the elite who want violence and conflict, on both sides.

    Let's choose to take sides with the little people against the elite? How about that?
    Tom
    Mmmmm the little people want bloodshed too.
    I'm guessing the Palestinians would accept water in lieu of bloodshed.

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    Never expect sanity from the cradle of three religions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Bosch View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post

    How do you stay peaceful when you are being oppressed?

    When your land is stolen continually?

    When you can't have an open water port or airport?

    When you can't come and go from your own home as you choose?

    When your people have been kidnapped and tortured and murdered for decades now?

    How does one stay peaceful in the face of decades of violent oppression?
    Here's a thought: why not find some good leadership, promote it, seek a two state solution with Israel that works for both sides?
    Oh, forgot to say.

    When all your leaders are killed because they are leaders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiprHead View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel View Post
    Look carefully at the antenna mast on the right--it's full of dishes. Dishes pointed horizontally. There's no reason for stuff like this on a press building. Sometimes you see satellite dishes but those are pointed at the sky. (Geosynchronous satellites will be 59.5 degrees from the horizon in Gaza.) There's nothing in Gaza that makes a whole bunch of microwave links make any sense. Thus that structure is almost certainly supporting a bunch of electronic intelligence gathering equipment. Military.
    A television station in Flint has offices here in Saginaw. Both facilities have horizontally pointing dishes at each other. Do you really think that tower is the only press facility in all of Palestine.

    I'm not saying you're wrong but there are certainly many reasons why those dishes could be pointed the way they are.
    Note what I said: "full of dishes". Not a dish or two linking to other facilities. I count more than 50 horizontal dishes on the roof of that building, most of them on the one tower. That is in addition to a few satellite dishes.

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