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    Quote Originally Posted by Derec View Post
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    Yah sure ya betcha. And antifa attacked the Capitol on Jan 6. Just ask any of your fellow BLM haters.
    People who think Antifa attacked the Capitol in a "false flag" attack are as deluded as those who think #BLM/Antifa violence is really "false flag" attacks by the right.
    How many BLM types were arrested in the Keystone Coup? Appears to be zero.

    How many right wing types have been arrested in "BLM" violence? Appears to be an appreciable percentage of the total.

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    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post
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    I don't agree.

    This is just another riot started by excessive police violence and desire to control people with force.
    How do you figure this? What timeline are you looking at that supports your assertion that excessive police force caused this riot?
    All you gotta do is put a few trouble makers in to break a few windows then the cops scream "riot" and start throwing people around with force.
    Conspiracy Theory then? Okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bomb#20 View Post
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    What is it with the pacific northwest and this breed of protest hooligan? It is appears to be an occupation out there.
    Some strange anarchist stronghold. I blame it on the lack of sunlight.
    Lack of sunlight doesn't cause anarchists. Lack of sunlight causes sparkly vampires.
    As evidenced by those sparkly vampires, it also causes a sense of nihilism and emo angst. Both of which correlate well with anarchists

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    An interesting development on the Antifa riots. If you are the wrong race, you will get assaulted.

    Man claimed to be Andy Ngo chased away from Portland protest

    Portland Protesters Chase, Tackle and Punch Someone They Believe to Be Andy Ngo Until He Hides in The Nines Hotel

    We all know that showing people what Antifa does is something only "fascists" (sic) do. But this individual wasn't doing that. He was guilty of being an Asian Man in Portland.
    No Biden, no KKK, no Fascist USA

    The word "know" has one silent k.
    The word "knuckle" has two silent k's.
    The word "Democrat" has three silent k's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Harvestdancer View Post
    An interesting development on the Antifa riots. If you are the wrong race, you will get assaulted.

    Man claimed to be Andy Ngo chased away from Portland protest

    Portland Protesters Chase, Tackle and Punch Someone They Believe to Be Andy Ngo Until He Hides in The Nines Hotel

    We all know that showing people what Antifa does is something only "fascists" (sic) do. But this individual wasn't doing that. He was guilty of being an Asian Man in Portland.
    How do you get, from those sources, that the guy was being hounded "for being Asian?"

    What the sources suggest (and common sense would support) is that the guy in question was being hounded for being (in the eyes of the crowd pursuing him) a right-wing shit-stirrer, not for "being the wrong race." Seriously--how can you frame such a clear-cut interpretation so crookedly?

    And, if it needs to be said, I hereby condemn angry mobs running people down in the streets, forcing them into "shelter" at a hotel, even IF they've been critical of your group, so let's not paint this as pro-antifa sympathizing or whatever. But let's also be clear that Andy Ngo's viewpoints, and expression of them, is what got him chased through Portland, not his almond-shaped eyes.

    Which I imagine you know full well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily Lake View Post
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    Lack of sunlight doesn't cause anarchists. Lack of sunlight causes sparkly vampires.
    As evidenced by those sparkly vampires, it also causes a sense of nihilism and emo angst. Both of which correlate well with anarchists
    Funny. The real deal is that protestors are welcome in Portland. And that's why we get so many. Portland has a long history as a liberal city that is open to all. And open to many different opinions. People with diverse opinions can come here and find like minded friends. The cops aren't going to harrass you. Cool beans. But when the protesters go too far, they start turning off people. And that's happening now. People are turning against them. We want our city back. I don't know why they don't march in cities where the real problems are. Why fuck up one of the most liberal (and successful business wise) communities in the country? Portland has it all: great weather (sorry anti rain people, I don't want to live in a desert); green everywhere; great ski mountain; great kayaking; great hiking; great place to do business; and an open liberal city that is welcoming. If the rest of the country where more like Portland, we wouldn't have much of the problems that people are complaining about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derec View Post
    Korryn Gaines case. She, a "sovereign citizen" who thinks US laws don't apply to her, threatened police with a shotgun. Officers were found to be justified in shooting her, but nevertheless a jury awarded her $38 million (!), when it should have awarded her zero dollars and attorney fees to the county because her greedy family filed a frivolous lawsuit.
    The woman used her own 5-year-old son as a shield.. clearly a crazy bitch. The cops accidently shot the 5-year-old and it was determined that, while the shooting of the mother was justified, the reckless nature of how and where the warrant was served created an unnecessary risk to the young child, resulting in his death. The award was to the family for their loss of the child.
    Monetary value of a human life is a sensitive subject, but actuaries that deal in wrongful death lawsuits have a model... the "value of life"

    It's $9.6 million + $120,000 per year of "quality life".

    so, a 5 year old that is expected to live with a good quality of life up to age 75 would be worth $9,600,000 + $120,000 * 70 = $18M

    I don't know why they doubled it.. unless it had to do with the egregiousness of the thing, or that it was mother and child both, or that this represented the termination of an entire family line... IDK.

    But the idea that holding cops accountable for an easily avoidable death simply by serving her warrant at her place of work, or the grocery store, or ANYWHERE beside where she had access to her child that the police already observed her use as a shield during the instigating vehicular incident, is FAR FAR FAR from "frivolous".

    But at least you didn't refer to the McDonalds coffee murder case in your defense of the "establishment" in all civil matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derec View Post
    Vandalism, even if "mild" is hardly part of peaceful protesting.
    So justified police shooting for making graffiti - if it ain't peaceful, it must be violent.

    <sigh> Yes, Derec, mild vandalism that does only temporary, reversible, damage is part of peaceful protests, despite being a misdemeanor.
    Murdering security guards, cops, and threatening to murder elected officials unless they overrule the majority will is not peaceful protesting. It's what the GoP does when the end of their power in sight.
    BUT IF ONLY those redneck cousin-fuckers just spray-painted "WE HATE LOSING!" all over the capital building and called it a day, that would have been much more appropriate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Nut View Post
    But the idea that holding cops accountable for an easily avoidable death simply by serving her warrant at her place of work, or the grocery store, or ANYWHERE beside where she had access to her child that the police already observed her use as a shield during the instigating vehicular incident, is FAR FAR FAR from "frivolous".

    But at least you didn't refer to the McDonalds coffee murder case in your defense of the "establishment" in all civil matters.
    It's the jury system being stupid. You're just replacing one hostage with another. A woman who will take her own child hostage would have grabbed anyone around as a hostage. The only way to make it safe would be to only arrest people when they're alone--but that's not feasible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Nut View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Derec View Post
    Korryn Gaines case. She, a "sovereign citizen" who thinks US laws don't apply to her, threatened police with a shotgun. Officers were found to be justified in shooting her, but nevertheless a jury awarded her $38 million (!), when it should have awarded her zero dollars and attorney fees to the county because her greedy family filed a frivolous lawsuit.
    The woman used her own 5-year-old son as a shield.. clearly a crazy bitch. The cops accidently shot the 5-year-old and it was determined that, while the shooting of the mother was justified, the reckless nature of how and where the warrant was served created an unnecessary risk to the young child, resulting in his death. The award was to the family for their loss of the child.
    Monetary value of a human life is a sensitive subject, but actuaries that deal in wrongful death lawsuits have a model... the "value of life"

    It's $9.6 million + $120,000 per year of "quality life".

    so, a 5 year old that is expected to live with a good quality of life up to age 75 would be worth $9,600,000 + $120,000 * 70 = $18M

    I don't know why they doubled it.. unless it had to do with the egregiousness of the thing, or that it was mother and child both, or that this represented the termination of an entire family line... IDK.

    But the idea that holding cops accountable for an easily avoidable death simply by serving her warrant at her place of work, or the grocery store, or ANYWHERE beside where she had access to her child that the police already observed her use as a shield during the instigating vehicular incident, is FAR FAR FAR from "frivolous".

    But at least you didn't refer to the McDonalds coffee murder case in your defense of the "establishment" in all civil matters.
    Yea, that really sucks. But here's a novel idea: why not protest in the city where this happened? Why does Portland get all fucked up? (Not attacking you)

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