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    Quote Originally Posted by Treedbear View Post

    "Supertankers" are the largest tankers, and the largest man-made mobile structures. They include very large and ultra-large crude carriers (VLCCs and ULCCs – see above) with capacities over 250,000 DWT. These ships can transport 2,000,000 barrels (320,000 m3) of oil/318,000 metric tons.
    So that's about 17 supertankers of brine per week.
    Most of the ocean is a barren desert where hardly any biomass is produced/accumulated. Large stretches of water are too poor in micronutrients to allow most algae to grow. This implies no zooplankton and fish either. The fertile areas are concentrated along the shores, especially near river deltas, due to coastal wash down, and in certain spots where upwelling (cold) water carries dissolved nutrients and aerosols (can you say aerosols in water?) from the sea floor. These dead zones start a few kilometres from the coast in many places. Dumping 17 supertankers there isn't really going to kill anything, and by the time it reaches more fertile waters it has mixed will.

    At the cost of a few kilometres of pipeline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treedbear View Post

    "Supertankers" are the largest tankers, and the largest man-made mobile structures. They include very large and ultra-large crude carriers (VLCCs and ULCCs – see above) with capacities over 250,000 DWT. These ships can transport 2,000,000 barrels (320,000 m3) of oil/318,000 metric tons.
    So that's about 17 supertankers of brine per week.
    Oops. I should have said per month.

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    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-...eberg-17539102

    The Arabs have been looking at towing icebergs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-...eberg-17539102

    The Arabs have been looking at towing icebergs.
    How's about something as a source that isn't The Mirror?

    BBC

    It sounds flatly impossible to do it for a cost that is feasible to recover. Could be cheaper to fly people to an iceberg and let them chip off ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-...eberg-17539102

    The Arabs have been looking at towing icebergs.
    How's about something as a source that isn't The Mirror?

    BBC

    It sounds flatly impossible to do it for a cost that is feasible to recover. Could be cheaper to fly people to an iceberg and let them chip off ice.
    I believe the Saudis attempted to do it. Tat was mainstream news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-...eberg-17539102

    The Arabs have been looking at towing icebergs.
    How's about something as a source that isn't The Mirror?

    BBC

    It sounds flatly impossible to do it for a cost that is feasible to recover. Could be cheaper to fly people to an iceberg and let them chip off ice.
    I believe the Saudis attempted to do it. Tat was mainstream news.
    The Oman and the Sea. The Arab version where by the time you get the iceberg to port there won't be anything left.

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    Don't confide me with the facts.

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    Regardless, desalination is a better alternative than pumping ground water for agriculture which is simply unsustainable at these rates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-...eberg-17539102

    The Arabs have been looking at towing icebergs.
    How's about something as a source that isn't The Mirror?

    BBC

    It sounds flatly impossible to do it for a cost that is feasible to recover. Could be cheaper to fly people to an iceberg and let them chip off ice.
    I believe the Saudis attempted to do it. Tat was mainstream news.
    People should not be living there, let alone procreate like they do over there. Sometimes I think the West should have simply taken over the oil there without paying arabs anything. It would have been better for the environment in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by steve_bank View Post

    I believe the Saudis attempted to do it. Tat was mainstream news.
    People should not be living there, let alone procreate like they do over there.
    There comes a time when one has to acknowledge that one is old enough for what one learnt in school to be no longer true.

    For you (and me) that time has long passed. Saudi Arabia has a total fertility rate (projected lifetime number of children per woman, based on summing current age-specific fertility rates) of 2.3, barely above replacement level. The other rich gulf countries (Bahrain, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar) are below 2.

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