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    Gender-critical views in England

    Some good news: gender-critical views are now protected in England.

    From The Guardian
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    The gender-critical views of a researcher who lost her job at a thinktank after tweeting that transgender women could not change their biological sex are a protected philosophical belief under the Equality Act, a judge-led panel has ruled.

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    So we're supposed to be always critical of gender, never of race, always of government, and never propagandistic received histories. Have I got the right of it?
    "Banish me from Eden when you will, but first let me eat of the tree of knowledge."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Politesse View Post
    So we're supposed to be always critical of gender, never of race, always of government, and never propagandistic received histories. Have I got the right of it?
    I know! If a society forms a belief system that’s contrary to nature, then we need to ignore nature to sustain the belief. Otherwise, believers may get their feelings hurt. Like those assholes, Galileo, Bruno, and Darwin. So hurtful. Sheesh.

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    Is genetic testing gender critical?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahab View Post
    Some good news: gender-critical views are now protected in England.

    From The Guardian
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    The gender-critical views of a researcher who lost her job at a thinktank after tweeting that transgender women could not change their biological sex are a protected philosophical belief under the Equality Act, a judge-led panel has ruled.
    How can that possibly be good news, bad news, or anything other than merely interesting news to a person in San Francisco?

    Does English law have a major impact on your life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trausti View Post
    Is genetic testing gender critical?

    I thought "gender-critical" was supposed to be a dogwhistle for strict gender-binary views?
    "Banish me from Eden when you will, but first let me eat of the tree of knowledge."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Politesse View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Trausti View Post
    Is genetic testing gender critical?

    I thought "gender-critical" was supposed to be a dogwhistle for strict gender-binary views?
    The Guardian used that phrase; presumably to prime the reader to dislike this lady.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Politesse View Post
    So we're supposed to be always critical of gender, never of race, always of government, and never propagandistic received histories. Have I got the right of it?
    What in the ruling makes you think that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bilby View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ahab View Post
    Some good news: gender-critical views are now protected in England.

    From The Guardian
    gender-critical-views-protected-belief-appeal-tribunal-rules-maya-forstater

    The gender-critical views of a researcher who lost her job at a thinktank after tweeting that transgender women could not change their biological sex are a protected philosophical belief under the Equality Act, a judge-led panel has ruled.
    How can that possibly be good news, bad news, or anything other than merely interesting news to a person in San Francisco?

    Does English law have a major impact on your life?
    You know how discussion boards work, right?

    Your question wasn't directed at me but I'll answer anyway. It's good news because people should not be fired for Tweeting biological facts in their own time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Politesse View Post
    So we're supposed to be always critical of gender, never of race, always of government, and never propagandistic received histories. Have I got the right of it?
    No, you just made that up right now, whole-cloth. It sounds like a position you would like to be arguing against not one anyone is espousing. At least not here.

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