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    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post
    Who is this "we"?
    everyone who is saying that your vaccination is Personal Medical Information covered by HIPAA
    That's not what some people are saying.

    They are saying me getting a shot in public in front of people who do not have a professional relationship with me is a personal matter.
    You're blurring the pronouns, then.
    By getting the vaccine in public I have made it public knowledge.
    which does not change the fact that it's classified as PMI by the HIPAA rules
    When Biden got his shot in front of camera's he made the matter public.
    Yep. But his vaccination status is still PMI.
    Anybody can talk about it.
    Anybody not subject to HIPAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funinspace View Post
    I hated security refreshers, as the Security Weenies generally annoyed me. Gee, why the fuck did I have to explain to one of these certified...idiot...Infosec types that it wouldn't be a good idea to just uninstall OpenSSL/OpenSSH even though we had to patch it several times a year. WTF...go back to telnet? Or maybe just take all the servers off the network? I also luved the 60 day changing 15+ char passwords, with at least one CAP, one Meta char, and one numeric. But oh, keyboard patterns are not a problem...security nitwits.
    I do most of my govt work with Advanced Instruction Management software. My whole team does.
    For years, every new hire in IT would see AIM on someone's laptop and freak that we had installed AOL Instant Messenger on a work computer
    Luckily, no one in IT today has ever used AOL, and we stopped having to threaten their lives....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith&Co. View Post
    which does not change the fact that it's classified as PMI by the HIPAA rules
    HIPPA only applies to people that have a professional relationship to me.

    Strangers that I let witness me get a vaccine have no restrictions under HIPPA.

    Anybody can talk about it.
    Anybody not subject to HIPAA.
    No, anybody. He made it a public matter.

    It is not personal information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post

    HIPPA only applies to people that have a professional relationship to me.

    Strangers that I let witness me get a vaccine have no restrictions under HIPPA.



    Anybody not subject to HIPAA.
    No, anybody. He made it a public matter.

    It is not personal information.
    The people who define HIPAA rules and PMI, with respect to HIPAA, say it's PMI. I do not understand the difficulty, here.
    But, hey, you know, at some point you just gotta say, if it's that important to you that 2+2=5, you do you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith&Co. View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post

    HIPPA only applies to people that have a professional relationship to me.

    Strangers that I let witness me get a vaccine have no restrictions under HIPPA.



    Anybody not subject to HIPAA.
    No, anybody. He made it a public matter.

    It is not personal information.
    The people who define HIPAA rules and PMI, with respect to HIPAA, say it's PMI. I do not understand the difficulty, here.
    But, hey, you know, at some point you just gotta say, if it's that important to you that 2+2=5, you do you.
    I don't understand your difficulty.

    Public acknowledgement of something makes it not personal information.

    2 + 2 = 4

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    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Keith&Co. View Post
    The people who define HIPAA rules and PMI, with respect to HIPAA, say it's PMI. I do not understand the difficulty, here.
    But, hey, you know, at some point you just gotta say, if it's that important to you that 2+2=5, you do you.
    I don't understand your difficulty.

    Public acknowledgement of something makes it not personal information.

    2 + 2 = 4
    Yep. You're absolutely right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ideologyhunter View Post
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    In a little over a year, the US has suffered about as many deaths from covid as we experienced in the entire Civil War, which is usually cited as the most traumatic tragedy in our entire history. And we STILL have these righties who spread the most ignorant notions about covid and the supposed government overreach on masks and vaccines. They show utter contempt for the health care providers. Their orange hero was covid's best friend. How does America produce these people? If I shared the beliefs of the Trumpies on guns, abortion, taxation, the election system, gay rights, and civil rights (a solid no on all 6), I would still -- hopefully -- have to reject the movement because of what they've done to America since the virus landed here. How would you like to be a nurse, doctor, or intern who had to treat one of these idiots as a fresh covid case? Marjorie: forget HIPAA and report directly to your death panel.
    Anti-Vaxxers Feed Off Democrats' Skepticism of COVID Vaccine
    % of Dems who have received at least their first covid vaccine shot: 86%
    % of Repubs: 45%
    Pretty slick point shaving, huh?
    Now imagine an alternate timeline where Pfizer didn’t deliberately halt development to throw the election, the vaccine came out when expected, and Trump wins. Those numbers would be flipped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith&Co. View Post
    For years, every new hire in IT would see AIM on someone's laptop and freak that we had installed AOL Instant Messenger on a work computer
    Luckily, no one in IT today has ever used AOL, and we stopped having to threaten their lives....
    Say wut...about the Air Intercept Missile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by funinspace View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Keith&Co. View Post
    For years, every new hire in IT would see AIM on someone's laptop and freak that we had installed AOL Instant Messenger on a work computer
    Luckily, no one in IT today has ever used AOL, and we stopped having to threaten their lives....
    Say wut...about the Air Intercept Missile?
    Ssssssst! I didn't say ANYTHING about the AIcM! Senator Bumblebutt mentioned it on TV, but _i_ am still bound by classification rules, and can neither confirm nor deny any rumor thst we're working on it!
    So, shush!

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    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by untermensche View Post
    It is not personal medical information.
    No, it is. But HIPAA only applies to HIPAA-covered entities. Not to, say, the press.
    How is it personal if 100 people watched me get it?
    Assuming those 100 people aren't medical people they're free to talk about it. Anyone in the line who saw me could legally say that I got my shot. (And both times it was far more than a mere 100.) However, if any of the workers there leaked my name they could be in deep doo-doo if I chose to make an issue out of it. They would not even be allowed to substantiate what someone else said.

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