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    NYC's Non-Police Mental Health Pilot Increasing Rate of Those Getting Aid, Data Show

    NYC's B-HEARD program aims to dispatch social workers with paramedics, instead of cops, for nonviolent mental health calls

    A New York City pilot program to respond to 911 calls for mental health crises with social workers instead of cops appears to be reducing unnecessary hospitalizations, while increasing the percentage of people who accept help when offered.

    The Behavioral Health Emergency Assistance Response Division, or "B-HEARD" program, which started in a portion of Harlem a month ago, has already responded to about 110 calls where there was no weapon or imminent risk of violence, according to summary data provided by the city on Thursday.

    Instead of cops and paramedics responding to 911 mental health calls, three-person teams of social workers and paramedics respond instead. In 95 percent of those cases, the city said, the subject of the call accepted the team's offer of assistance.

    In the old cop-EMS model, that rate was 82 percent.

    That assistance, in whatever form it takes, is also increasingly being provided by other means than just going to a hospital. Whereas all assistance cases went to a hospital in the old model, now just 50 percent do. The rest were either aided at home or taken to a non-emergency community center.

    One of the major concerns going into the program was the safety of the first responders, but so far the program has only called for NYPD backup seven times. On the other hand, the city said, the NYPD has called in B-HEARD teams 14 times after finding police services weren't needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiprHead View Post
    NYC's B-HEARD program aims to dispatch social workers with paramedics, instead of cops, for nonviolent mental health calls

    A New York City pilot program to respond to 911 calls for mental health crises with social workers instead of cops appears to be reducing unnecessary hospitalizations, while increasing the percentage of people who accept help when offered.

    The Behavioral Health Emergency Assistance Response Division, or "B-HEARD" program, which started in a portion of Harlem a month ago, has already responded to about 110 calls where there was no weapon or imminent risk of violence, according to summary data provided by the city on Thursday.

    Instead of cops and paramedics responding to 911 mental health calls, three-person teams of social workers and paramedics respond instead. In 95 percent of those cases, the city said, the subject of the call accepted the team's offer of assistance.

    In the old cop-EMS model, that rate was 82 percent.

    That assistance, in whatever form it takes, is also increasingly being provided by other means than just going to a hospital. Whereas all assistance cases went to a hospital in the old model, now just 50 percent do. The rest were either aided at home or taken to a non-emergency community center.

    One of the major concerns going into the program was the safety of the first responders, but so far the program has only called for NYPD backup seven times. On the other hand, the city said, the NYPD has called in B-HEARD teams 14 times after finding police services weren't needed.
    I so wish the catch phrase "Defund the Police" hadn't been invented.

    This is what re-allocation of resources can do. It'll probably mean a big increase in taxpayer dollars spent on law enforcement, in the short-term. But in the long-term it will mean better results from the money spent, and probably less money spent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ZiprHead View Post
    NYC's B-HEARD program aims to dispatch social workers with paramedics, instead of cops, for nonviolent mental health calls

    A New York City pilot program to respond to 911 calls for mental health crises with social workers instead of cops appears to be reducing unnecessary hospitalizations, while increasing the percentage of people who accept help when offered.

    The Behavioral Health Emergency Assistance Response Division, or "B-HEARD" program, which started in a portion of Harlem a month ago, has already responded to about 110 calls where there was no weapon or imminent risk of violence, according to summary data provided by the city on Thursday.

    Instead of cops and paramedics responding to 911 mental health calls, three-person teams of social workers and paramedics respond instead. In 95 percent of those cases, the city said, the subject of the call accepted the team's offer of assistance.

    In the old cop-EMS model, that rate was 82 percent.

    That assistance, in whatever form it takes, is also increasingly being provided by other means than just going to a hospital. Whereas all assistance cases went to a hospital in the old model, now just 50 percent do. The rest were either aided at home or taken to a non-emergency community center.

    One of the major concerns going into the program was the safety of the first responders, but so far the program has only called for NYPD backup seven times. On the other hand, the city said, the NYPD has called in B-HEARD teams 14 times after finding police services weren't needed.
    I so wish the catch phrase "Defund the Police" hadn't been invented.
    Agree 100%

    This is a much better use of public funds. I doubt that there are many communities which have not suffered fatalities at the hands of the police in an otherwise non-violent mental health crisis situation. I know that mine has.

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    My city has had something like this for a while, And, we are getting a new $14 million mental health wing at the hospital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ZiprHead View Post
    NYC's B-HEARD program aims to dispatch social workers with paramedics, instead of cops, for nonviolent mental health calls

    A New York City pilot program to respond to 911 calls for mental health crises with social workers instead of cops appears to be reducing unnecessary hospitalizations, while increasing the percentage of people who accept help when offered.

    The Behavioral Health Emergency Assistance Response Division, or "B-HEARD" program, which started in a portion of Harlem a month ago, has already responded to about 110 calls where there was no weapon or imminent risk of violence, according to summary data provided by the city on Thursday.

    Instead of cops and paramedics responding to 911 mental health calls, three-person teams of social workers and paramedics respond instead. In 95 percent of those cases, the city said, the subject of the call accepted the team's offer of assistance.

    In the old cop-EMS model, that rate was 82 percent.

    That assistance, in whatever form it takes, is also increasingly being provided by other means than just going to a hospital. Whereas all assistance cases went to a hospital in the old model, now just 50 percent do. The rest were either aided at home or taken to a non-emergency community center.

    One of the major concerns going into the program was the safety of the first responders, but so far the program has only called for NYPD backup seven times. On the other hand, the city said, the NYPD has called in B-HEARD teams 14 times after finding police services weren't needed.
    I so wish the catch phrase "Defund the Police" hadn't been invented.

    This is what re-allocation of resources can do. It'll probably mean a big increase in taxpayer dollars spent on law enforcement, in the short-term. But in the long-term it will mean better results from the money spent, and probably less money spent.
    Tom
    Totally agree about the stupid phrase defund the police! How would it be cheaper in the long run? In Oregon and Washington, there is an incredible shortage of mental health care workers. It's very difficult finding someone willing to just meet with you in their office, when you have great insurance and resources. Let alone convince them to go on calls that could be dangerous. You'd have to train more. Give them combat bonus (they're already paid far more than police). I do agree that the state of mental health care in the US is a major reason why crime and homelessness is so high. But it would take a major investment to reverse this course that I just don't see the American people as willing to do. I'm sad to say...

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    How are these social workers going to respond to a nutjob with a gun for example?

    As to the "defund police", yes it is a stupid slogan, but the far left is committing to the stupid and also to its cousin - abolishing prisons.
    AOC says she wants 'to abolish our carceral system'

    Quote Originally Posted by AOC
    I want to abolish our carceral system that's designed to trap Black and Brown men
    In other words, to AOC it is fine to lock up white men, just not those with the politically correct skin color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derec View Post
    How are these social workers


    As to the "defund police", the far left is committing to the stupid and also want to abolish prisons.
    AOC says she wants 'to abolish our carceral system'

    Quote Originally Posted by AOC
    I want to abolish our carceral system that's designed to trap Black and Brown men
    In other words, to AOC it is find to lock up white men, just not those with the politically correct skin color.
    Is it truly necessary to put words in other people's mouths? Abolishing a system of healthcare doesn't mean "Let's bulldoze all the hospitals." Do you ever actually take a moment to think about the bullshit the rightwing media spins at you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorq View Post
    Is it truly necessary to put words in other people's mouths? Abolishing a system of healthcare doesn't mean "Let's bulldoze all the hospitals." Do you ever actually take a moment to think about the bullshit the rightwing media spins at you?
    Hospitals are an integral part of our system of healthcare. And prison are the integral part of our "carceral system" that AOC wants to abolish, at least for "brown and black men". Note that prison and police abolition are en vogue on the far left. Example:
    Abolition for the People

    If you don't think AOC wants to actually abolish prisons, could you translate this AOCese gibberish English please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derec View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zorq View Post
    Is it truly necessary to put words in other people's mouths? Abolishing a system of healthcare doesn't mean "Let's bulldoze all the hospitals." Do you ever actually take a moment to think about the bullshit the rightwing media spins at you?
    Hospitals are an integral part of our system of healthcare. And prison are the integral part of our "carceral system" that AOC wants to abolish, at least for "brown and black men". Note that prison and police abolition are en vogue on the far left. Example:
    Abolition for the People

    If you don't think AOC wants to actually abolish prisons, could you translate this AOCese gibberish English please.
    She's not wrong that the current system is designed to trap men of color. I'm particularly thinking of for profit prisons which are a terrible stain on our nation and are far removed from justice for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derec View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zorq View Post
    Is it truly necessary to put words in other people's mouths? Abolishing a system of healthcare doesn't mean "Let's bulldoze all the hospitals." Do you ever actually take a moment to think about the bullshit the rightwing media spins at you?
    Hospitals are an integral part of our system of healthcare. And prison are the integral part of our "carceral system" that AOC wants to abolish, at least for "brown and black men". Note that prison and police abolition are en vogue on the far left. Example:
    Abolition for the People

    If you don't think AOC wants to actually abolish prisons, could you translate this AOCese gibberish English please.
    Easy, AOC didn't write any of that. Nice to see you've moved on from whataboutism to gish galloping. Variety is good.

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