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    Sperm can pass trauma symptoms through generations, study finds

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    This is fascinating - there seems to be a lot of stuff about non-DNA based changes to inheritance emerging....environmental factors can have an effect on gene expression......


    Researchers have put ample effort into identifying genes that help explain why cancer or heart disease run in some families. But scientists still don't know if some genes can explain why the children and grandchildren of people who've survived traumatic events are more likely to experience mental illnesses than the general population. If there is a gene, or set of genes, that make the children of survivors more likely to develop depression and schizophrenia, scientists have yet to find it. Now, new research suggests that many scientists might have been looking in the wrong place.

    A group of European researchers have discovered that early life traumatic events can alter a non-genetic mechanism governing gene expression in the sperm cells of adult mice. And they think that this finding, published today in Nature Neuroscience, explains why the offspring of these mice exhibit the same depressive-like behaviors that their parents do.
    More at the link.

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    So it is we men causing the problem after all huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phands View Post
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    This is fascinating - there seems to be a lot of stuff about non-DNA based changes to inheritance emerging....environmental factors can have an effect on gene expression......




    More at the link.
    Who would have thought that the original article is a lot less sensationalistic.

    http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/...l/nn.3695.html

    They were looking for potential epigenetic triggers. That is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrZoidberg View Post
    Who would have thought that the original article is a lot less sensationalistic.

    http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/...l/nn.3695.html

    They were looking for potential epigenetic triggers. That is all.
    On the other hand working along the same lines we get a scientific article like

    Epigenetic memory: the Lamarckian brain
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...201387637/full

    It is thus tempting to speculate that an epigenetic code could be part of the engram. The nature of the engram is still a mystery, but the predominant view suggests that structural changes occurring at synapses which represent specific neuronal networks recruited during memory consolidation are an essential part of it (Routtenberg, 2013). Could it be possible that part of the information processed in such networks is permanently stored within the chromatin of the corresponding cells? Although this is pure speculation, in favor of this view it was shown that formerly lost memories could be reinstated in a mouse model for severe neurodegeneration when mice received an epigenetic drug, in this case an HDAC inhibitor (Fischer et al, 2007).
    Yowie.
    Last edited by fromderinside; 04-14-2014 at 06:14 PM. Reason: OK. Its time to roll up our sleeves and get into this science stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by fromderinside View Post
    On the other hand working along the same lines we get a scientific article like

    Epigenetic memory: the Lamarckian brain
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...201387637/full

    Yowie.
    Wait.... what's that.... I think an Engram buried deep inside my brain is surfacing... a voice deep down can be heard.... Is it the phony balony voice of L Ron Hubbard I can hear?... Yes, it is... Oh, praise be Xenu and all his magical and mystical wisdom he endows us with.

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    Real men don't let their sperm go bonkers.

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    I think this definitely explains angry blow jobs.


    Oh, and don't ever spank your monkey!
    One is to look, another to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musing Man View Post
    Oh, and don't ever spank your monkey!
    No, no, no! You have to spank your monkey! Relieve the traumatized sperm out as fast as you're able. So your kids get newly generated non-stressed, happy happy joy joy sperm.

    Carry a laminated copy of the appropriate research around so when you get caught spanking, you can say: Making the world a better place, ma'am!

    I'm gonna go home tonight and make sure the next generation doesn't suffer for the injection i got in my eyeball yesterday.
    There may be no meaning to this world, but that does not mean that what I do is meaningless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith&Co. View Post

    I'm gonna go home tonight and make sure the next generation doesn't suffer for the injection i got in my eyeball yesterday.
    So those pants you're wearing aren't tie dye?

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    Wel, they weren't yesterday...
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