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    What doesn't necessarily cure poverty

    Education

    http://www.vox.com/2015/3/30/8308607/education-poverty



    People in poverty are much more educated than they were 30-40 years ago . . . and they're still in poverty.

    What does cure poverty? More income.

    Shocking, I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksen View Post
    Education

    http://www.vox.com/2015/3/30/8308607/education-poverty



    People in poverty are much more educated than they were 30-40 years ago . . . and they're still in poverty.

    What does cure poverty? More income.

    Shocking, I know.
    Or perhaps it's what you study that matters. If you spend 4+ years incurring student debt and walk away with a degree in feel-good studies, don't be surprised if barista is the best job in the offing.

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    Is that what they did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksen View Post
    People in poverty are much more educated than they were 30-40 years ago . . . and they're still in poverty.
    Based on the data provided it would be accurate to say they have more advanced degrees. I am skeptical that this translates one-for-one to "more educated" or "have the skills that employers want".

    What does cure poverty? More income.
    Given the way "poverty" is typically defined that's a tautology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dismal View Post
    Based on the data provided it would be accurate to say they have more advanced degrees. I am skeptical that this translates one-for-one to "more educated" or "have the skills that employers want".
    What makes you skeptical? Are with trausti in thinking these people are just getting a bunch of "feel good" degrees?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksen View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dismal View Post
    Based on the data provided it would be accurate to say they have more advanced degrees. I am skeptical that this translates one-for-one to "more educated" or "have the skills that employers want".
    What makes you skeptical? Are with trausti in thinking these people are just getting a bunch of "feel good" degrees?
    http://www.payscale.com/college-sala...t-pay-you-back

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    What's your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksen View Post
    What's your point?
    Didn't you start a thread about how educational level doesn't get one out of poverty as easily? A point about which majors pay back the cost of getting them would seem to be right on target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksen View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dismal View Post
    Based on the data provided it would be accurate to say they have more advanced degrees. I am skeptical that this translates one-for-one to "more educated" or "have the skills that employers want".
    What makes you skeptical? Are with trausti in thinking these people are just getting a bunch of "feel good" degrees?
    I don't think there's much question that degrees in general have been dumbed down. And many people are able to get one without acquiring much in the way of skills an employer would value.

    In the 1970's a lot fewer people got degrees and thus they contained more of a signal of achievement to employers as well.

    I would hesitate to draw conclusions much beyond this without more data than has been provided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ksen View Post
    What's your point?
    Didn't you start a thread about how educational level doesn't get one out of poverty as easily? A point about which majors pay back the cost of getting them would seem to be right on target.
    I think first you'd have to demonstrate that the degrees people in poverty are seeking are the "wrong" kinds of degrees.

    Besides, we're often sold by the Right that education is the answer. Well, no, education itself isn't the answer. As demonstrated by the chart in the OP.

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