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    US President 2016 - the Great Horse Race

    In recent decades, politicians have started running for US President earlier and earlier. Here's how far it's gone: two days after 2012 Election Day, Marco Rubio headed to Iowa: Has 2016 already started? - CSMonitor.com

    Republicans who seem like they may run:
    • Marco Rubio
    • Rick Santorum
    • Ben Carson
    • Rand Paul
    • Ted Cruz
    • Scott Walker
    • Peter King
    • Donald Trump
    • Mike Huckabee
    • Chris Christie
    • Jeb Bush
    • Paul Ryan
    • Sarah Palin

    Seems like a forest of John Birch trees.

    On the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton is the big favorite, though I've seen mention of candidates like former Montana gov Brian Schweitzer. Some people want Elizabeth Warren to run, though she seems content with being Teddy Kennedy II in the Senate.

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    Re: US President 2016 - the Great Horse Race

    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    In recent decades, politicians have started running for US President earlier and earlier. Here's how far it's gone: two days after 2012 Election Day, Marco Rubio headed to Iowa: Has 2016 already started? - CSMonitor.com

    Republicans who seem like they may run:
    • Marco Rubio
    • Rick Santorum
    • Ben Carson
    • Rand Paul
    • Ted Cruz
    • Scott Walker
    • Peter King
    • Donald Trump
    • Mike Huckabee
    • Chris Christie
    • Jeb Bush
    • Paul Ryan
    • Sarah Palin

    Seems like a forest of John Birch trees.

    On the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton is the big favorite, though I've seen mention of candidates like former Montana gov Brian Schweitzer. Some people want Elizabeth Warren to run, though she seems content with being Teddy Kennedy II in the Senate.
    I'll give you credit for the fact that "forest of John Birch trees" is a funny phrase, but given that it is a phrase that applies to the overwhelming majority of Republican politicians and Republican voters, it is not particularly illuminating.

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    Re: US President 2016 - the Great Horse Race

    When do you guys vote in 2016? I mean, isn't two years of campaigning a bit, sorry, A LOT, ridiculously early?

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    Re: US President 2016 - the Great Horse Race

    Quote Originally Posted by Underseer View Post
    I'll give you credit for the fact that "forest of John Birch trees" is a funny phrase, but given that it is a phrase that applies to the overwhelming majority of Republican politicians and Republican voters, it is not particularly illuminating.
    Have any of you actually paid attention to what the John Birch Society actually proposes? They're way more dovish than most Republicans on foreign policy. Most Republicans would label them "isolationists." They don't want ANY foreign entanglements which includes things like NAFTA and the WTO. I haven't actually seen their position on NATO, but I suspect that they would favor withdrawal. The Cold War is over so they want us to come home and stay home. Hardly your typical Republican view.

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    Re: US President 2016 - the Great Horse Race

    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post
    In recent decades, politicians have started running for US President earlier and earlier. Here's how far it's gone: two days after 2012 Election Day, Marco Rubio headed to Iowa: Has 2016 already started? - CSMonitor.com

    Republicans who seem like they may run:
    • Marco Rubio
    • Rick Santorum
    • Ben Carson
    • Rand Paul
    • Ted Cruz
    • Scott Walker
    • Peter King
    • Donald Trump
    • Mike Huckabee
    • Chris Christie
    • Jeb Bush
    • Paul Ryan
    • Sarah Palin

    Seems like a forest of John Birch trees.

    On the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton is the big favorite, though I've seen mention of candidates like former Montana gov Brian Schweitzer. Some people want Elizabeth Warren to run, though she seems content with being Teddy Kennedy II in the Senate.
    I'd say that Carson, Huckabee, Bush, Walker, Trump, and Palin are possible candidates. The others are probable candidates. I'd also add Bobby Jindal to the list of possibles.

    Of the probables, I have to rate Rubio, Santorum, and Cruz as long-shots. So it looks like Ryan, Paul, and Christie are most likely at the moment. But if Huckabee or Bush gets in, all bets are off.

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    Re: US President 2016 - the Great Horse Race

    Quote Originally Posted by gmbteach View Post
    When do you guys vote in 2016? I mean, isn't two years of campaigning a bit, sorry, A LOT, ridiculously early?
    The US has fixed federal election dates; the Presidential Election is every four years, on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November. (Usually it falls on Melbourne Cup day, so it is easy for Australians to remember). Their Reps and one-third of their Senators are up for election every even numbered year, with the elections that don't fall in a Presidential election year known as 'mid-term elections' or simply 'mid-terms'. Many states also have their various state elections fall on federal election day, so voters only have to go to the polls once.

    So yes, two years would be ridiculously long, but the reality is even worse than that - there are two years and nearly eight months before the 2016 election.

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    Re: US President 2016 - the Great Horse Race

    I alluded to the John Birch Society because it is a far-right organization, and because birch trees are what its name makes me think of. The JBS's founder, Robert Welch, was known for believing that Dwight Eisenhower had been a part of the International Communist Conspiracy. Many of his fellow right-wingers couldn't stomach that one, however.

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    Re: US President 2016 - the Great Horse Race

    They wanted the same thing leading up to WW2. Not much changes.

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    Re: US President 2016 - the Great Horse Race

    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post

    Republicans who seem like they may run:
    • Marco Rubio
    • Rick Santorum
    • Ben Carson
    • Rand Paul
    • Ted Cruz
    • Scott Walker
    • Peter King
    • Donald Trump
    • Mike Huckabee
    • Chris Christie
    • Jeb Bush
    • Paul Ryan
    • Sarah Palin

    Seems like a forest of John Birch trees.
    Should I puke now or wait?

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    Re: US President 2016 - the Great Horse Race

    Quote Originally Posted by crazyfingers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lpetrich View Post

    Republicans who seem like they may run:
    • Marco Rubio
    • Rick Santorum
    • Ben Carson
    • Rand Paul
    • Ted Cruz
    • Scott Walker
    • Peter King
    • Donald Trump
    • Mike Huckabee
    • Chris Christie
    • Jeb Bush
    • Paul Ryan
    • Sarah Palin

    Seems like a forest of John Birch trees.
    Should I puke now or wait?
    Why not do both?

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