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    What's Education For?



    The greatest problem of the modern education system is that it doesn't focus on systematically preparing students for many aspects of the real challenge out there: Life itself
    I imagine one of the reasons people cling to their hates so stubbornly is because they sense, once hate is gone, they will be forced to deal with pain.

    The power of the white world is threatened whenever a black man refuses to accept the white world's definitions.

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    While I agree, isn't the issue that we've created a one size fits all educational system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloradoatheist View Post
    While I agree, isn't the issue that we've created a one size fits all educational system?
    That is one issue and a very important one, but not the only issue.
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    To promote happiness by increasing one's understanding of and appreciation of the world.

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    The purpose of education is to teach people to not end a sentence with a preposition.

    That's what it's for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronzeage View Post
    The purpose of education is to teach people to not end a sentence with a preposition.

    That's what it's for.
    That is not what education is for, however that is what your tenth grade English teacher was for.
    I imagine one of the reasons people cling to their hates so stubbornly is because they sense, once hate is gone, they will be forced to deal with pain.

    The power of the white world is threatened whenever a black man refuses to accept the white world's definitions.

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    Formal school is not and can not plausibly be designed to effectively teach us everything there is to know about how to live. That's why it only takes up 25% of a child's waking hours from k-12 (half of the waking hours for only half of the days of those years).

    That said, many of the suggestions make perfect sense. Math should be taught in the context of economics, although I argue that it should also be taught in the contexts of basic scientific methods related to probability, sampling methods, and basic statistics. Without this, people are incapable of understanding and evaluating scientific research or other empirical evidence and related claims.
    I also agree that the more basic and established aspects of cognitive/psychological science should be taught throughout k-12. These include everything from brain biology and its massive role in how we learn, feel, and behave, to the role of context and social influence. It should include info on the various ways in which our thinking is often biased and irrational, often corrupted by emotional goals that we might not be aware of which delude us into accepting ideas that our own knowledge would tell us are false if we applied it properly. However, the OP clip mentions the most dubious and invalid areas of psychology, saying we should helping students develop maps of their own personalities and the "types of people they are best suited to be around". Personality psychology is among the softest and least validated and disputed (by those within the field) areas of psychology. The vast majority of people with Ph.D.s in research-based psychology (i.e., not therapy) would oppose such efforts unless those areas of research developed light years beyond where they are now.

    Understanding human biology, health, and human psychology are of vastly more importance and utility to students than periodic tables and the majority of what they are currently learning in chemistry, physics, and even biology courses. Also, psychology deals with human thought and behavior, which is something all kids have experience with, and it would be easy to craft lessons that illustrate the latest understanding in ways that even young grade school kids would grasp and likely be interested in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronzeage View Post
    The purpose of education is to teach people to not end a sentence with a preposition.

    That's what it's for.
    Or to use split infinitives...

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    Quote Originally Posted by seyorni View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bronzeage View Post
    The purpose of education is to teach people to not end a sentence with a preposition.

    That's what it's for.
    Or to use split infinitives...
    Good Catch
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    -- James A. Baldwin

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    The purpose of education is to teach people how to learn. How to find out, discover, and understand things, so that when necessary they can do it for themselves. A system that leaves people with a strong desire to never open a non-fiction book again has largely failed in this goal.

    The easiest way to achieve this is to spend a lot of time learning in a lot of different ways, typically by studying very different subject areas, so that you have a basic grounding in as many different ways of thinking as possible.

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    The purpose of education is to teach people how to learn. How to find out, discover, and understand things, so that when necessary they can do it for themselves. A system that leaves people with a strong desire to never open a non-fiction book again has largely failed in this goal.

    The easiest way to achieve this is to spend a lot of time learning in a lot of different ways, typically by studying very different subject areas, so that you have a basic grounding in as many different ways of thinking as possible.

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