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    From what Jesus said in the bible, would you say it was evidence he was good?

    Apart from the miracles and healings, would you say that what Jesus said to others was evidence of him being a good person?

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    Quote Originally Posted by markhope View Post
    Apart from the miracles and healings, would you say that what Jesus said to others was evidence of him being a good person?
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markhope View Post
    Apart from the miracles and healings, would you say that what Jesus said to others was evidence of him being a good person?
    the audio of Jesus speaking played backwards says "kill yourself"

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    The things that Jesus says in the gospels are evidence that the writers putting things into his mouth were familiar with wisdom literature from a variety of cultures. The character lied (John 7:8-10), cheated (Matt 17:27), stole (Luke 19:31) and cussed (Mark 11:12-25). Probably no worse than most of my buddies.

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    If you'd ask Jesus, he'd say none is good except God alone. *wink*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atheos View Post
    The things that Jesus says in the gospels are evidence that the writers putting things into his mouth were familiar with wisdom literature from a variety of cultures. The character lied (John 7:8-10), cheated (Matt 17:27), stole (Luke 19:31) and cussed (Mark 11:12-25). Probably no worse than most of my buddies.
    Sun of a bitch, now I'm going to have to look that up and read the bible.

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    Not any more good than anyone else and in some ways worse.

    He snubs his mother, his family, a woman at the well until she agrees with him that she's a dog, tells his followers to hate their families, tells a grieving follower to not bother going home to bury his dead father...I'm not feeling it.

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    Dude might not have been much on drankin' himself, but he was definitely the go-to guy when you needed someone to make a beer run (John 2:1-10).

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    The nonresistance to evil teachings are so extreme that some apologists insist they applied to that day and age only when local law enforcement didn't exist. Ditto the business about giving away your stuff to whoever asks for it -- in fact, giving them more than they ask for. These teachings, plus the emphasis on scorning possessions and giving your stuff to the poor, reflect on the End Times delusion the guy had (also the fact that he seemed to go around free-loading everywhere.) And then there's the horseshit about, whatever you ask in my name, I will do it (which must be tough when players from 2 opposing football teams in west Texas pray to Jesus for a win.) That teaching was so off-kilter that C.S. Lewis mentioned it as a conundrum -- a scripture that must not mean what it says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ideologyhunter View Post
    The nonresistance to evil teachings are so extreme that some apologists insist they applied to that day and age only when local law enforcement didn't exist. Ditto the business about giving away your stuff to whoever asks for it -- in fact, giving them more than they ask for. These teachings, plus the emphasis on scorning possessions and giving your stuff to the poor, reflect on the End Times delusion the guy had (also the fact that he seemed to go around free-loading everywhere.) And then there's the horseshit about, whatever you ask in my name, I will do it (which must be tough when players from 2 opposing football teams in west Texas pray to Jesus for a win.) That teaching was so off-kilter that C.S. Lewis mentioned it as a conundrum -- a scripture that must not mean what it says.

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