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    Old Testament as Satire?

    I was reading the article about how Facebook was banning Atheism and it took me a bit to realize that it was from a satire website. That led me to question how people thousands of years into the future would be able to tell the difference between this satire article and real news if they didn't have the proper context of that website being a satirical website.

    I continued my thought out the other way. How would we know if books from the past were actually meant to be satirical, especially something like the Old Testament. How would we know that the collection of stories were meant to be taken seriously and not written as satire/jokes? I mean, a lot in there is hard to handle if they aren't meant as satire/jokes. The whole listing of generations makes a lot more sense if it is meant as a joke .

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    Satire on the level of "By the way, before coming here I set your cat on fire. Just kidding"

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    As much as the Bible is misunderstood as misrepresented by religiosity, I honestly don't think that the opposite end of the spectrum - Satire would have been much worse.

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    I always thought the New Testament was a joke.
    Scripture Night Live:
    Okay, so what do we know about the Messiah?
    He'll be named Immanuel.
    Great, great, so in OUR skit, we'll call him....Jesus.
    Why?
    It's a pun.
    Genius.

    Okay, what else?
    Well, he's a descendant of David, and heir to the throne.
    But not through Jehoiakim. Prophecy says none of his heirs will ever sit on the throne.
    Okay, great! We'll make our Immanuel (sic) a descendant of Jehoiakim!
    Through his mother or his father?
    BOTH! We'll put Jehoiakim in both lineages!
    I dunno.... Do you think the audience will really get it?
    Maybe not right away, but after they wait for Jesus to return for a hundred years or so, the penny'll drop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith&Co. View Post
    I always thought the New Testament was a joke.
    Scripture Night Live:
    Okay, so what do we know about the Messiah?
    He'll be named Immanuel.
    Great, great, so in OUR skit, we'll call him....Jesus.
    Why?
    It's a pun.
    Genius.

    Okay, what else?
    Well, he's a descendant of David, and heir to the throne.
    But not through Jehoiakim. Prophecy says none of his heirs will ever sit on the throne.
    Okay, great! We'll make our Immanuel (sic) a descendant of Jehoiakim!
    Through his mother or his father?
    BOTH! We'll put Jehoiakim in both lineages!
    I dunno.... Do you think the audience will really get it?
    Maybe not right away, but after they wait for Jesus to return for a hundred years or so, the penny'll drop.
    Hello, Keith,

    Immanuel, in the case of Jesus, is a title name. To the ancients, names had meaning. In Hebrew Immanuel means With Us Is God. Other title names were applied to Jesus prophetically, such as Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince Of Peace. (Matthew 1:23 / Isaiah 9:6)

    You might want to be more specific when you are talking about prophecies. The prophecy of Jehoiakim says that he will have no one sit on the throne of David. (Jeremiah 36:30) In other words the throne in Jerusalem. None did, including Jesus.

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    tough room.

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    Some theologians have argued that the apparent nihilism of the book of Ecclesiastes ("All is vanity ... The dead know not anything, neither have they any more a reward") means that it must be a "parody", and the author is assuming the identity of an unbeliever in order to satirise his beliefs.
    Last edited by fta; 05-31-2015 at 06:04 AM.

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    Nah. Humor is death to religion.

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    ...and religion is often death to those who see the humor.

    ...and to those who have a different sense of humor.

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    It would be highly unlikely for all of the texts to be satire. At least one of them could be, though.
    Do human beings have free will? I can't decide.

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